@Tauzty: Take this as you want: This is one of those typical people are laughing at you rather than with you scenarios. Its not that your attempt at a burnout is vrot, it that burnouts (whether coupled with or without steering input) are considered as vrot, and is usually done by those that are retarded.....less informed. These are also hotly argued topics, as there are those (less informed individuals) that are under what we call the "mis-perception" that spending money on a car in terms of servicing or fitting rare wheels (also sometimes referred as taking care of a car) is a counter for the damage that abusing "driving" with do to a car.