The Era of Bench Flashing has Returned

Kish2604

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Staff member
Thread moved to Sherwins advertiser section.

PS. well done on getting the bench flashing sorted locally! clean competition will be good between the different camps.
 

Kimeran

///Member
FiRi@Rennzport said:
Gizmo@GARAGE46 said:
Whether it's JB4 or bench flashed you still voiding people's motorplan and getting them cancelled. Dealerships will now update their side of things seeing this and even more motorplans will be cancelled.
Why should the dealerships pay for dodgy customers modding their cars? End of the day every customer loses because the dealership pushes up the price of parts to make up for how much they losing on modded broken cars.:thumbdo:
The increasing prices at dealerships for new cars and parts, shouldn't effect you at all Gizmo...as nothing with a turbo or after the e46 is good enough

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This post made my day :roflol:

Well done Sherwin, now onto those record breaking times :cartel:
 

ChefDJ

///Member
I also don't see how this affects parts for the older cars.

Those parts would get more expensive due to them becoming more rare when the manufacturer stops making them, if anything.
 

Acheron

Honorary ///Member
@Sherwin: Well done. Out of interest will you also be offering services to unlock ECU's if someone were to want to use something like PTF's bootmod3 app/maps?

ChefDJ@TheFanatics said:
I also don't see how this affects parts for the older cars.

Those parts would get more expensive due to them becoming more rare when the manufacturer stops making them, if anything.
Don't argue. Gizmo knows and sees all in the BMW world. Why else would he present his opinions as FACTS on a continual basis? Now excuse me while I go trade my F-series in for a "proper" BMW from the era when the still made "real" cars.
 

Gizmo

Banned
You go do that...:blab:

Sherwin gave me a straight answer and I thank him for that. I know xcede do great work I wouldn't send customers their way if I didn't think so.
 

Sherwin@xcede

BMWFanatics Advertiser
Official Advertiser
Ok I don't know what happened back there but here goes:

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Back to discussion. There are some of the parameters one can change in the BMW Maps:

Throttle response
Temperature limiters
Lambda request
Lambda component protection
Torque limiters
Ignition timing
Camshaft timing
Requested air load
Wastegate duty cycle
Wastegate duty cycle linearisation
Wastegate duty cycle limit
Max air load
Rail pressure
Rail pressure limiters
Gearbox limiters
Gearbox shift time (optional)
Knock threshold
Lambda/O2 sensor delete (optional)
Speed limiter (optional)
MAF scaling (Stage 3)
Injector sizing (Stage 3)
Max air load
Rail pressure
Rail pressure limiters
Gearbox limiters
Gearbox shift time (optional)
Knock threshold
Lambda/O2 sensor delete (optional)
Speed limiter (optional)
MAF scaling (Stage 3)
Injector sizing (Stage 3)

And if you really want to get medieval and google some German parameters in the DME:

Lambda/AFR
Basislambda im Homgenen Bank 2 - KF_LABAS_2
Basislambda im Homgenen Bank 1 - KF_LABAS_1
Basislambda im Homogenen bei Superklopfer - KF_LA_SK
Korrekturfaktor Kraftstoffversorgungssystem - FKKVS



Railpressure
Kennlinie Raildruck Volllast bei Homogen - KL_PRAIL_H_VL
Kennfeld RAILDRUCK HOMOGEN - KF_PRAIL_H
Rennstart - Launchcontrol
Aktivierung EOverboost bei Rennstart - S_RENNST_BST
Momentenentlastung bei Rennstart - K_MDENTL_RENN
Pwg_ist-Schwelle für Rennstart (Automatik) - Def_wdk_sw_q0p0244
Pwg_ist-Schwelle für Rennstart (Handschalter) - K_PWG_RENN_HS
Minimale Zeit zwischen 2 Rennstarts - K_TD_RENNST_SPERRE
Maximale Dauer Rennstart - K_TD_RENNST_AKT
Schwellwert PWG fuer Aktivierung Rennstart - K_PWG_RENNST_ENA
Schwellwert PWG fuer Deaktivierung Rennstart - K_PWG_RENNST_AUS
Codewort zur Aktivierung der Erhöhung der Ladervorspannung beim Rennstart beim HSG (Bit 0), AT (Bit 1) oder DKG (Bit 2) - CW_RENNSTART_ATL
Freigabe Rennstart fuer Handschalter - S_RENNSTHS_ENA
Schalter Freigabe Bedingung Rennstart vom DKG-SG - S_RENNSTDKGENA
Zeit in der der Rennstart aktiv ist (Handschalter) -K_T_RENNAKT_HS
Zeit in der der Rennstart aktiv ist (Automatik) - K_T_RENNAKT
Schalter DSC-Status CAN fuer Freigabe Rennstart bei Handschalter - K_ST_DSC_SCHALTER
Geschwindigkeitsschwelle ab der Rennstart deaktiviert wird - K_V_RENNST_AUS
Zeit die Bedingungen zur Aktivierung Rennstart anlegen müssen - K_TD_RENNST
Solldrehzahl Drehzahlregler bei aktivem Rennstart - K_NSOLL_RENNST set to 3500 rpm
Heissfilmluftmassenmesser - airmassmeter diagnosis
Unterer Massenstromquotient für Diagnose HFM Mshfm ggü Mszyl_diag - KF_FMS_HFMPL_MN
Oberer Massenstromquotient für Diagnose HFM Mshfm ggü Mszyl_diag - KF_FMS_HFMPL_MX
Unterer Massenstromquotient für Diagnose Massenstrom im Saugrohr Msev_diag versus Msdk_diag - KF_FMS_DKPSRPL_MN
Obere Massenstromquotient für Diagnose Massenstrom im Saugrohr Msev_diag versus Msdk_diag - KF_FMS_DKPSRPL_MX

Torque based on boost
optimales Moment bei LA 1 - KF_MDIOP_2 - only touch in case of gearbox limitation
optimales Moment bei LA 1 - KF_MDIOP_1 - only touch in case of gearbox limitation
Faktor Max. Fuellung - KF_F_MDMX_TANS
Faktor RF - KF_F_MDMX_KR
maximal zulässiges Kupplungsmoment gangabhängig MOD2 - KF_MDKMAX_GANG_MOD2
maximal zulässiges Kupplungsmoment gangabhängig MOD1 - KF_MDKMAX_GANG_MOD1
Begrenzung des Druckverhältnisses über Verdichter zur Vermeidung von Lader-Überdrehzahl und zu hohen Temperaturen nach Verdichter - KF_FPLDMAX
Begrenzung Rf bei Atl-Varianten im Fehlerfall (b_atlerr_md) - KL_RFMXATLNL
Max. Turbo-Luftaufwand - KL_MDKMX_ATL_HS - boostlimiter converted to newtonmeters for manual gearbox
Max. Turbo-Luftaufwand - KL_MDKMX_ATL_AT - for automatic gearbox
Max. Turbo-Luftaufwand - KL_MDKMX_ATL_DKG - for doubleclutch gearbox
Schluckgerade - KL_FUPSRF_ATL
Faktor Lader-Pumpgrenze - KL_FPLDPUMP - set to maximum
Faktor Max. Fuellung - KL_F_MDMX_TMOT
Einfluss Motortemperatur auf max. Füllung - KL_TMZE
Maximales inneres Moment bei VL-Kennlinie 1 - KL_MDMX_VL1
max. Luftaufwand - KL_LAMX
Maximalmomentenkennlinie (Nkw_opt) Normal bei ZKA - KL_MDMAX
KF_RFMAXATL_SK set to airload 200
KF_RFMAXATL_KR
Maximaler Sollladedruck wegen Diagnose Ladedrucksensor - K_PLD_SOLL_MAX
Ub Min-Schwelle für ATL Error - K_ATLERR_UBMIN
zul. Overboostmoment - KF_DMDMX_OB
Faktor zur Reduzierung des Sollmoments in Abhaengigkeit der Kuehlmittel- und Motoroeltemperatur - KF_KUEHLPIMX
Faktor zur Reduzierung des Sollmoments in Abhaengigkeit der Motordrehzahl - KL_KUEHLN
Kennlinie maximales inneres Moment in der Funktionsüberwachung - MoF_rTrqInrMax_CUR
Delta Ersatzwert Druck vor Drosselklappe - DEPVD
maximale untere Toleranz des Drucks vor DK - DPTPVDMN
maximale obere Toleranz des Drucks vor DK - DPTPVDMX
Ersatzwert für maximalem Druck vor DK - PVDEMX
Regelgrösse untere Schwelle - KF_ATLRPID_MN
Regelgrösse obere Schwelle - KF_ATLRPID_MX
Kennlinie maximales inneres Moment in der erweiterten Überwachung - MoX_rTrqInrMax_CUR

PID for turbo only need to modify in case of PID issues when using bigger turbo
P-Anteil des leistungsbasierten Ladedruckreglers - KF_PVERD_GRD
I Anteil Verstärkung Regeldifferenz - KF_FATLR_I
D-Anteil des leistungsbasierten Ladedruckreglers - KF_PATLR_D

Other maps of boostmodel needed when using bigger turbo
Wastegate Position - für Vorsteuerung Bank2 - KF_WGPOS_VST_B2
Wastegate Position - für Vorsteuerung - KF_WGPOS_VST
Verdichterkennfeld mit erforderlicher Verdichter- / Turbinenleistung
ATL-Regler - Vorsteuerung - gedrosselter Betrieb - Sport-Modus - KF_ATLVST_GD_SPORT
ATL-Regler - Offset auf Vorsteuerung für Bank2 - gedrosselter Betrieb - KF_DATLVST_GD_B2
ATL-Regler - Vorsteuerung - gedrosselter Betrieb - KF_ATLVST_GD
Pumpgrenze des ATL - VPVLLKPVVG

Trottlepedal
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2_ANF_AT
Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2_AT
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2_ANF
Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Sport - KF_PEDAL_1_ANF
Pedalprogression Sport - KF_PEDAL_1
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Soft - KF_PEDAL_0_ANF
Pedalprogression Soft - KF_PEDAL_0

Ignition
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 3 - KF_ZW_PF3
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 2 sicher - KF_ZW_S_PF2
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 2 - KF_ZW_PF2
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 1 sicher - KF_ZW_S_PF1
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 1 - KF_ZW_PF1

Revlimit rpm
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) - NMAXOGGA
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) AT - NMAXOGGAAT
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurze Erhöherung) in AT Fahrzeugen, ohne erzwungener Hochschaltung - NMAXOGGAATEXP
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) AT GD - NMAXOGGAATGD
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurze Erhöherung) in AT Fahrzeugen, ohne erzwungener Hochschaltung am GD. - NMAXOGGAATGDEXP
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) GD - NMAXOGGAGD
Drehzahlbegrenzung bei hoher Öltemperatur - NMAXTO

Exhaust sound flap
Schwelle für Ladedruckdifferenz zum Öffnen der Soundklappe - SoTun_pBstPDifThd_CUR

Catalyst diagnosis
maximum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMax_CUR - used in case of decat
minimum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMin_CUR - used in case of decat
maximum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, upper range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng1MaxB1_C
minimum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, upper range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng1MinB1_C
maximum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, lower range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng2MaxB1_C
minimum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, lower range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng2MinB1_C
maximum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, tester request, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasTstReqMaxB1_C
minimum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, tester request, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasTstReqMinB1_C
maximum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_nEngMax_C
minimum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_nEngMin_C
maximum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
minimum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
maximum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMax_CUR
minimum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMin_CUR
maximum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
minimum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
minimum ambient temperature for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_tAmbMin_C
Obere Schwelle der relativen Luftfuellung - ExhMod_rLdMax_CUR
Untere Schwelle der relativen Luftfuellung - ExhMod_rLdMin_CUR

Vmax
Codewort VMAX-Codierung aktiv - CWVMAXCOD
Kennlinie für Vmax-Begrenzungswert - KLVMAXO
Wertblock zum um einen Satz von vmax Werten zu halten - KVMAXSWT
Vmax-Begrenzungswert, variantencodiert - VMAXOVC
 

Arbee

Honorary ///Member
Well done Sherwin. Great achievement! Will bring my ECU on my home visit.

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sanesh21

///Member
Acheron said:
@Sherwin: Well done. Out of interest will you also be offering services to unlock ECU's if someone were to want to use something like PTF's bootmod3 app/maps?

+1 on this?
 

Tareeq

Active member
Sherwin@xcede said:
Ok I don't know what happened back there but here goes:

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Back to discussion. There are some of the parameters one can change in the BMW Maps:

Throttle response
Temperature limiters
Lambda request
Lambda component protection
Torque limiters
Ignition timing
Camshaft timing
Requested air load
Wastegate duty cycle
Wastegate duty cycle linearisation
Wastegate duty cycle limit
Max air load
Rail pressure
Rail pressure limiters
Gearbox limiters
Gearbox shift time (optional)
Knock threshold
Lambda/O2 sensor delete (optional)
Speed limiter (optional)
MAF scaling (Stage 3)
Injector sizing (Stage 3)
Max air load
Rail pressure
Rail pressure limiters
Gearbox limiters
Gearbox shift time (optional)
Knock threshold
Lambda/O2 sensor delete (optional)
Speed limiter (optional)
MAF scaling (Stage 3)
Injector sizing (Stage 3)

And if you really want to get medieval and google some German parameters in the DME:

Lambda/AFR
Basislambda im Homgenen Bank 2 - KF_LABAS_2
Basislambda im Homgenen Bank 1 - KF_LABAS_1
Basislambda im Homogenen bei Superklopfer - KF_LA_SK
Korrekturfaktor Kraftstoffversorgungssystem - FKKVS



Railpressure
Kennlinie Raildruck Volllast bei Homogen - KL_PRAIL_H_VL
Kennfeld RAILDRUCK HOMOGEN - KF_PRAIL_H
Rennstart - Launchcontrol
Aktivierung EOverboost bei Rennstart - S_RENNST_BST
Momentenentlastung bei Rennstart - K_MDENTL_RENN
Pwg_ist-Schwelle für Rennstart (Automatik) - Def_wdk_sw_q0p0244
Pwg_ist-Schwelle für Rennstart (Handschalter) - K_PWG_RENN_HS
Minimale Zeit zwischen 2 Rennstarts - K_TD_RENNST_SPERRE
Maximale Dauer Rennstart - K_TD_RENNST_AKT
Schwellwert PWG fuer Aktivierung Rennstart - K_PWG_RENNST_ENA
Schwellwert PWG fuer Deaktivierung Rennstart - K_PWG_RENNST_AUS
Codewort zur Aktivierung der Erhöhung der Ladervorspannung beim Rennstart beim HSG (Bit 0), AT (Bit 1) oder DKG (Bit 2) - CW_RENNSTART_ATL
Freigabe Rennstart fuer Handschalter - S_RENNSTHS_ENA
Schalter Freigabe Bedingung Rennstart vom DKG-SG - S_RENNSTDKGENA
Zeit in der der Rennstart aktiv ist (Handschalter) -K_T_RENNAKT_HS
Zeit in der der Rennstart aktiv ist (Automatik) - K_T_RENNAKT
Schalter DSC-Status CAN fuer Freigabe Rennstart bei Handschalter - K_ST_DSC_SCHALTER
Geschwindigkeitsschwelle ab der Rennstart deaktiviert wird - K_V_RENNST_AUS
Zeit die Bedingungen zur Aktivierung Rennstart anlegen müssen - K_TD_RENNST
Solldrehzahl Drehzahlregler bei aktivem Rennstart - K_NSOLL_RENNST set to 3500 rpm
Heissfilmluftmassenmesser - airmassmeter diagnosis
Unterer Massenstromquotient für Diagnose HFM Mshfm ggü Mszyl_diag - KF_FMS_HFMPL_MN
Oberer Massenstromquotient für Diagnose HFM Mshfm ggü Mszyl_diag - KF_FMS_HFMPL_MX
Unterer Massenstromquotient für Diagnose Massenstrom im Saugrohr Msev_diag versus Msdk_diag - KF_FMS_DKPSRPL_MN
Obere Massenstromquotient für Diagnose Massenstrom im Saugrohr Msev_diag versus Msdk_diag - KF_FMS_DKPSRPL_MX

Torque based on boost
optimales Moment bei LA 1 - KF_MDIOP_2 - only touch in case of gearbox limitation
optimales Moment bei LA 1 - KF_MDIOP_1 - only touch in case of gearbox limitation
Faktor Max. Fuellung - KF_F_MDMX_TANS
Faktor RF - KF_F_MDMX_KR
maximal zulässiges Kupplungsmoment gangabhängig MOD2 - KF_MDKMAX_GANG_MOD2
maximal zulässiges Kupplungsmoment gangabhängig MOD1 - KF_MDKMAX_GANG_MOD1
Begrenzung des Druckverhältnisses über Verdichter zur Vermeidung von Lader-Überdrehzahl und zu hohen Temperaturen nach Verdichter - KF_FPLDMAX
Begrenzung Rf bei Atl-Varianten im Fehlerfall (b_atlerr_md) - KL_RFMXATLNL
Max. Turbo-Luftaufwand - KL_MDKMX_ATL_HS - boostlimiter converted to newtonmeters for manual gearbox
Max. Turbo-Luftaufwand - KL_MDKMX_ATL_AT - for automatic gearbox
Max. Turbo-Luftaufwand - KL_MDKMX_ATL_DKG - for doubleclutch gearbox
Schluckgerade - KL_FUPSRF_ATL
Faktor Lader-Pumpgrenze - KL_FPLDPUMP - set to maximum
Faktor Max. Fuellung - KL_F_MDMX_TMOT
Einfluss Motortemperatur auf max. Füllung - KL_TMZE
Maximales inneres Moment bei VL-Kennlinie 1 - KL_MDMX_VL1
max. Luftaufwand - KL_LAMX
Maximalmomentenkennlinie (Nkw_opt) Normal bei ZKA - KL_MDMAX
KF_RFMAXATL_SK set to airload 200
KF_RFMAXATL_KR
Maximaler Sollladedruck wegen Diagnose Ladedrucksensor - K_PLD_SOLL_MAX
Ub Min-Schwelle für ATL Error - K_ATLERR_UBMIN
zul. Overboostmoment - KF_DMDMX_OB
Faktor zur Reduzierung des Sollmoments in Abhaengigkeit der Kuehlmittel- und Motoroeltemperatur - KF_KUEHLPIMX
Faktor zur Reduzierung des Sollmoments in Abhaengigkeit der Motordrehzahl - KL_KUEHLN
Kennlinie maximales inneres Moment in der Funktionsüberwachung - MoF_rTrqInrMax_CUR
Delta Ersatzwert Druck vor Drosselklappe - DEPVD
maximale untere Toleranz des Drucks vor DK - DPTPVDMN
maximale obere Toleranz des Drucks vor DK - DPTPVDMX
Ersatzwert für maximalem Druck vor DK - PVDEMX
Regelgrösse untere Schwelle - KF_ATLRPID_MN
Regelgrösse obere Schwelle - KF_ATLRPID_MX
Kennlinie maximales inneres Moment in der erweiterten Überwachung - MoX_rTrqInrMax_CUR

PID for turbo only need to modify in case of PID issues when using bigger turbo
P-Anteil des leistungsbasierten Ladedruckreglers - KF_PVERD_GRD
I Anteil Verstärkung Regeldifferenz - KF_FATLR_I
D-Anteil des leistungsbasierten Ladedruckreglers - KF_PATLR_D

Other maps of boostmodel needed when using bigger turbo
Wastegate Position - für Vorsteuerung Bank2 - KF_WGPOS_VST_B2
Wastegate Position - für Vorsteuerung - KF_WGPOS_VST
Verdichterkennfeld mit erforderlicher Verdichter- / Turbinenleistung
ATL-Regler - Vorsteuerung - gedrosselter Betrieb - Sport-Modus - KF_ATLVST_GD_SPORT
ATL-Regler - Offset auf Vorsteuerung für Bank2 - gedrosselter Betrieb - KF_DATLVST_GD_B2
ATL-Regler - Vorsteuerung - gedrosselter Betrieb - KF_ATLVST_GD
Pumpgrenze des ATL - VPVLLKPVVG

Trottlepedal
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2_ANF_AT
Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2_AT
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2_ANF
Pedalprogression Spezial - KF_PEDAL_2
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Sport - KF_PEDAL_1_ANF
Pedalprogression Sport - KF_PEDAL_1
Anfahr-Pedalprogression Soft - KF_PEDAL_0_ANF
Pedalprogression Soft - KF_PEDAL_0

Ignition
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 3 - KF_ZW_PF3
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 2 sicher - KF_ZW_S_PF2
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 2 - KF_ZW_PF2
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 1 sicher - KF_ZW_S_PF1
Grundzündwinkel Pfad 1 - KF_ZW_PF1

Revlimit rpm
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) - NMAXOGGA
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) AT - NMAXOGGAAT
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurze Erhöherung) in AT Fahrzeugen, ohne erzwungener Hochschaltung - NMAXOGGAATEXP
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) AT GD - NMAXOGGAATGD
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurze Erhöherung) in AT Fahrzeugen, ohne erzwungener Hochschaltung am GD. - NMAXOGGAATGDEXP
Maximal zulässige Motordrehzahl (kurzzeitige Überhöhung) GD - NMAXOGGAGD
Drehzahlbegrenzung bei hoher Öltemperatur - NMAXTO

Exhaust sound flap
Schwelle für Ladedruckdifferenz zum Öffnen der Soundklappe - SoTun_pBstPDifThd_CUR

Catalyst diagnosis
maximum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMax_CUR - used in case of decat
minimum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMin_CUR - used in case of decat
maximum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, upper range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng1MaxB1_C
minimum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, upper range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng1MinB1_C
maximum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, lower range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng2MaxB1_C
minimum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, lower range, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasRng2MinB1_C
maximum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, tester request, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasTstReqMaxB1_C
minimum air mass for catalyst diagnosis, tester request, bank 1 - TWCD_dmGasTstReqMinB1_C
maximum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_nEngMax_C
minimum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_nEngMin_C
maximum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
minimum rotational speed for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
maximum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMax_CUR
minimum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_rLdMin_CUR
maximum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
minimum relative air charge for catalyst diagnosis, tester request
minimum ambient temperature for catalyst diagnosis - TWCD_tAmbMin_C
Obere Schwelle der relativen Luftfuellung - ExhMod_rLdMax_CUR
Untere Schwelle der relativen Luftfuellung - ExhMod_rLdMin_CUR

Vmax
Codewort VMAX-Codierung aktiv - CWVMAXCOD
Kennlinie für Vmax-Begrenzungswert - KLVMAXO
Wertblock zum um einen Satz von vmax Werten zu halten - KVMAXSWT
Vmax-Begrenzungswert, variantencodiert - VMAXOVC

I don't know the half of what the German stuff means however I want to say well done Sherwin :clapper: honestly a break through for the local tuning and setting the benchmark when it comes to Flashing as per norm :rollsmile:
 

kilotango

New member
Sherwin@xcede said:
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And in this same breath, cars with a bench flash tested by this same low level diagnostics or FASTA or any other method have not been detected to have been flashed. I personally have had 6 cars scanned specifically for mods and they have not been detected.
......


uhh, so someone can take their new M4 in for flashing, then have their car explode and STILL claim on motorplan??

that doesnt sound good to me...and sounds like some serious abuse of motor plan.

while i can say well done on hacking, cracking and selling this as a service.. the fact that you're still allowing people to make claims on motorplan is just wrong. any way... you know, Karma and all that jazz...
 

325iSmk2

Banned
kilotango said:
Sherwin@xcede said:
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And in this same breath, cars with a bench flash tested by this same low level diagnostics or FASTA or any other method have not been detected to have been flashed. I personally have had 6 cars scanned specifically for mods and they have not been detected.
......


uhh, so someone can take their new M4 in for flashing, then have their car explode and STILL claim on motorplan??

that doesnt sound good to me...and sounds like some serious abuse of motor plan.

while i can say well done on hacking, cracking and selling this as a service.. the fact that you're still allowing people to make claims on motorplan is just wrong. any way... you know, Karma and all that jazz...

The vendor is not "allowing" anything. It is up to the owner and his/hers standards of ethics as to whether he'll claim or not.
 

kilotango

New member
325iSmk2 said:
kilotango said:
Sherwin@xcede said:
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And in this same breath, cars with a bench flash tested by this same low level diagnostics or FASTA or any other method have not been detected to have been flashed. I personally have had 6 cars scanned specifically for mods and they have not been detected.
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The vendor is not "allowing" anything. It is up to the owner and his/hers standards of ethics as to whether he'll claim or not.

yeah im not buying that.... it was part of his marketing blurb, and the reason for:

"the nett result is an influx of ///M cars being booked in with us and bench flashed. Some of them like M4 competition packs with 30k on the clock. i have done 4 M45 CP's in a week, M6's, M5's, M135's and M235's. on Wednesday I bench flashed 6 cars in 1 day."
 
YUBEN@TheFanatics said:
Sabretooth tiger said:
Gizmo@GARAGE46 said:
you still voiding people's motorplan and getting them cancelled.

I disagree with you here. It is not the tuners placing the owners' cars at risk, but the owners themselves. I agree with what Chef said above.
If you willing to risk loosing your plan, the risk is on you as the owner, the tuner did not put a gun to your head to tune your car.
Charlton, you beat me to saying the same thing. I'm of the opinion that Dealers, not BMW alone, are making truck loads of money from sales and servicing, so motorplan payouts are just a drop in the ocean compared to the revenue they are making.

At the end of the day, it is the owners who are running the risk of voiding their plans. Tuners are offering a viable performance enhancement which has been available for years. BMW should have stringent tests in place to detect unauthorised performance upgrades which resulted in mechanical failure. This way they protect themselves and shift the burden onto the owner who knew full well what the ramifications would be should the mods go pear shaped.

If BMW cannot pick, then it is their problem. The same goes for VW, who I'm sure are dealing with much more cases of modded GTI's breaking.


LOL :roflol::biglol::crazylaugh:

These clean ups, sure make for weird and strange reading.
Yuben why you copying me, if I apparently never said it ? :smashScreen:
 

TBP88

Well-known member
At the end of the day, it comes down to the individual. BMW will spend R&D money to have better, less crackable interfaces and have more complex diagnostics while passing that cost to the consumer by charging higher rates for their cars and parts. The net result is suffering for the BMW buyers. But it's the individuals car, if he/she wants to crack it, mod it, race it etc. then he can do so, it isn't his responsibility to make sure we can afford the next gen of BMW cars... The hypocrisy arises when the same guys who tune their cars take them to be serviced under MP and complain when BMW tells them to stick it. If you get caught out, tough takkies. Eventually BMW won't allow any modding, no changing rims, badges, wraps, aftermarket sound etc. Everything will be banned and MP will only cover bone stock cars with OEM approved tyres changed at BMW approved fitment centres...
 

akash

Well-known member
Here is my 2c, when you buy a BMW the MP contract is between the Owner of the car and BMW. The owners are fully aware of the MP implications when modifying their cars or taking part in any unauthorized Motorsport events.

If the owners accept the risk and tunes the car, then that liability sits with the owner. If something were to go wrong with the car, the owner decides whether to claim via MP or not, not the tuner. Yes the ECU can be returned back to stock, but that is done on the request of the owner.

It’s like an athlete taking a banned substance, the substance maybe legally produced, but the athlete takes the risk of being caught using the substance, not the manufacture of the substance.
 

Quick///M

Well-known member
TBP88 said:
At the end of the day, it comes down to the individual. BMW will spend R&D money to have better, less crackable interfaces and have more complex diagnostics while passing that cost to the consumer by charging higher rates for their cars and parts. The net result is suffering for the BMW buyers. But it's the individuals car, if he/she wants to crack it, mod it, race it etc. then he can do so, it isn't his responsibility to make sure we can afford the next gen of BMW cars... The hypocrisy arises when the same guys who tune their cars take them to be serviced under MP and complain when BMW tells them to stick it. If you get caught out, tough takkies. Eventually BMW won't allow any modding, no changing rims, badges, wraps, aftermarket sound etc. Everything will be banned and MP will only cover bone stock cars with OEM approved tyres changed at BMW approved fitment centres...

All at the owners risk bud, but BMW is also quite 2 faced with Motor Plan. Try and put your M4 on a track for just one LAP and see how fast they cancel your motorplan if they come to know about it. So buy a purpose built track car to drive it on the road like a granny
 

TBP88

Well-known member
Quick///M said:
TBP88 said:
At the end of the day, it comes down to the individual. BMW will spend R&D money to have better, less crackable interfaces and have more complex diagnostics while passing that cost to the consumer by charging higher rates for their cars and parts. The net result is suffering for the BMW buyers. But it's the individuals car, if he/she wants to crack it, mod it, race it etc. then he can do so, it isn't his responsibility to make sure we can afford the next gen of BMW cars... The hypocrisy arises when the same guys who tune their cars take them to be serviced under MP and complain when BMW tells them to stick it. If you get caught out, tough takkies. Eventually BMW won't allow any modding, no changing rims, badges, wraps, aftermarket sound etc. Everything will be banned and MP will only cover bone stock cars with OEM approved tyres changed at BMW approved fitment centres...

All at the owners risk bud, but BMW is also quite 2 faced with Motor Plan. Try and put your M4 on a track for just one LAP and see how fast they cancel your motorplan if they come to know about it. So buy a purpose built track car to drive it on the road like a granny

No debate about who is sitting with the risk, per say. But the issue is that Gizmo is right. BMW are aware of MP abuse/hipocrisy and they now spend money making tools to track modding etc.

So instead of spending bucks producing better cars, they spend money on cars they can monitor better. This cost is obviously passed onto the consumer.

The dude with a tuned M4 gives zero fucks about all of this, but if he goes back to BMW with screwed up injectors or whatever from the tune which has been untraceably returned to stock then BMW must cough up the thousands in repairs that his hipocrisy costs. So in order to cover their risk of this, BMW must invest in chasing after tuners to see how well they can lock their cars or trace any tunes done to their cars.

It's basically a cold war arms race, the only loser is the consumer who has to pay more for BMW products that have had millions of $ spent not on developing better engines, gearboxes or more comfy seats, but instead on databoxes and ECU units that can track the cars tuning history better.
 

ChefDJ

///Member
Yes I agree that it is unethical to claim from motorplan when something goes wrong as a direct result of the vehicle being modded, but coming on the forum and telling the advertisers and their customers that what they're doing is naughty naughty is not exactly helpful. BMW AG is a US$ 800 billion company. The high prices of vehicles and parts are not because of 1% (thumbsuck) of their client basis modding their cars and then claiming for repairs on motorplan.

These guys are milking every consumer who can afford their products because it's the way of business, and their consumers are fine with it because said products are in high demand.

If you can't afford a BMW or their parts, instead of blaming people on the forums for it, why not go buy a Kia instead...?
 
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