AlexYannoulatos
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Would be very happy for you, but you sold the Mini so cant say i am.
haha, just kidding, great news ! Keep us posted
haha, just kidding, great news ! Keep us posted
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My BMW X1 23d Xdrive Journal
- Thread starter SMRTARSX1
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Final Update on this.
Two workshops looked at the car, neither could find the issue - Neither could get Glowplug 1 out without compromising the head, which means neither could COMPLETE a FULL Compression Test on the motor.
After 5 months of it rotting on my driveway I called MFC, three hours later I signed the forms, two hours after they collected the car, set a minimum reserve and its now gone.
So, if you see it on auction, don't buy it - My gut says it burnt a hole in Cylinder 1 and given this motor is rarer than an honest politician the chances of an actual fix is less than nothing.
It could still be anything, but its no longer my anything to own.
Dumped ALL BMW Products until I have some faith again, or at least, a full motorplan, both MINI's gone and back in my old faithful, a Swiss German Pocket Knife.
Mike
Two workshops looked at the car, neither could find the issue - Neither could get Glowplug 1 out without compromising the head, which means neither could COMPLETE a FULL Compression Test on the motor.
After 5 months of it rotting on my driveway I called MFC, three hours later I signed the forms, two hours after they collected the car, set a minimum reserve and its now gone.
So, if you see it on auction, don't buy it - My gut says it burnt a hole in Cylinder 1 and given this motor is rarer than an honest politician the chances of an actual fix is less than nothing.
It could still be anything, but its no longer my anything to own.
Dumped ALL BMW Products until I have some faith again, or at least, a full motorplan, both MINI's gone and back in my old faithful, a Swiss German Pocket Knife.
Mike
AlexYannoulatos
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Sorry Mike ! Wheres it on auction though?
MiniMike20
Well-known member
Aaaaaaah my old BMW X1. Who wants to know what was actually wrong with it?
AlexYannoulatos
///Member
I DO
MiniMike20
Well-known member
You sure? Cos its kinda embarrassing.
Tell us!
MiniMike20
Well-known member
Okay so some context which was missing when I wrote this thread and at the time the engine "broke".
I was living in Bellville and had signed a lease in Sea Point for a gorgeous apartment. At the existing house there was a lot of space to leave the car standing but the new place did not have that. From the moment the car broke it became a burden so when we moved I had it flat-bedded to a workshop in town to diagnose the engine.
They had it for 3 months (which suited me) but could not diagnose the motor despite ripping it to pieces and re-assembling it like shit again. They also slapped me with a MASSIVE diagnostics bill despite not diagnosing anything and frankly I didnt want the car back after they worked on it and I had nowhere to go with it.
We were in the break even / positive with the finance on the car and I really didnt want to pay the workshops bill as they had only made the car worse and charged me for the privilege. They would not release the car and with no idea what was wrong with it I contacted MFC and asked them if I could surrender the car, send it to auction and they settle it with the money generated. They liked this idea, I signed a form and 3.5 hours later they had forcibly removed the car from the workshop and confirmed it would go on auction.
It went on auction and I considered it a sad ending to a otherwise unreal and brilliant ownership experience until I got a message on facebook..... The guy that bought the car on auction had found me (not difficult given the car had a following of over 13 000 odd people) and he wanted to know why the injectors were causing issues, the car was smoking and why it had no coolant in it etc. Of course, the issues it had were 110% a result of the poor workmanship by the workshop, my gut feeling about them ruining the car was spot on but my question was quite simple - How did you get it to run?!
Well, folks.
It had no diesel in it.
Yes, thats right, all of this because the car ran out of diesel.
Hindsight I recalled after talking to the new owner that a few days before it broke down (sorry ran out of fuel) I had filled the tank but the gauge had not reflected that. I still went back to the garage and asked if they had actually filled the tank and the next day the level corrected itself. So what happened is that the X1 has two fuel tank floats and the one float had gotten stuck. The cars gauge had been reflecting a quarter tank when in fact it was empty.
Two workshops in total were unable to diagnose that it simply had no fuel and the 2nd workshop ruined the car entirely.
So there it is - I sent a car to auction because it ran out of diesel and nobody - Not even me, could figure that out.
I was living in Bellville and had signed a lease in Sea Point for a gorgeous apartment. At the existing house there was a lot of space to leave the car standing but the new place did not have that. From the moment the car broke it became a burden so when we moved I had it flat-bedded to a workshop in town to diagnose the engine.
They had it for 3 months (which suited me) but could not diagnose the motor despite ripping it to pieces and re-assembling it like shit again. They also slapped me with a MASSIVE diagnostics bill despite not diagnosing anything and frankly I didnt want the car back after they worked on it and I had nowhere to go with it.
We were in the break even / positive with the finance on the car and I really didnt want to pay the workshops bill as they had only made the car worse and charged me for the privilege. They would not release the car and with no idea what was wrong with it I contacted MFC and asked them if I could surrender the car, send it to auction and they settle it with the money generated. They liked this idea, I signed a form and 3.5 hours later they had forcibly removed the car from the workshop and confirmed it would go on auction.
It went on auction and I considered it a sad ending to a otherwise unreal and brilliant ownership experience until I got a message on facebook..... The guy that bought the car on auction had found me (not difficult given the car had a following of over 13 000 odd people) and he wanted to know why the injectors were causing issues, the car was smoking and why it had no coolant in it etc. Of course, the issues it had were 110% a result of the poor workmanship by the workshop, my gut feeling about them ruining the car was spot on but my question was quite simple - How did you get it to run?!
Well, folks.
It had no diesel in it.
Yes, thats right, all of this because the car ran out of diesel.
Hindsight I recalled after talking to the new owner that a few days before it broke down (sorry ran out of fuel) I had filled the tank but the gauge had not reflected that. I still went back to the garage and asked if they had actually filled the tank and the next day the level corrected itself. So what happened is that the X1 has two fuel tank floats and the one float had gotten stuck. The cars gauge had been reflecting a quarter tank when in fact it was empty.
Two workshops in total were unable to diagnose that it simply had no fuel and the 2nd workshop ruined the car entirely.
So there it is - I sent a car to auction because it ran out of diesel and nobody - Not even me, could figure that out.
VinceM
Well-known member
Thanks for sharing and exposing your vulnerability......lots to learn for others too.
What’s meant to be in most cases is meant to be hence they misdiagnosed it so you could come out clean with the bank and got out the car.
New owner stroke a luck!
On diagnosis, isn’t it easier to see if the car has “fuel starvation”?
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What’s meant to be in most cases is meant to be hence they misdiagnosed it so you could come out clean with the bank and got out the car.
New owner stroke a luck!
On diagnosis, isn’t it easier to see if the car has “fuel starvation”?
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MiniMike20
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You know I had such a fight with the second workshop that they called the police on me and removed my fiancé (male) from the premises.
I continuously asked for diagnostics reports and fault codes, I asked them to check the rail pressure which they confirmed multiple times was in spec (insinuating it had fuel), I was so over it by the end of the first month of trying to assist.
I was told by the workshop to just replace the engine and try as I might to explain it’s a rare engine (N47S) and that a used motor simply was not an option as it didn’t exist they insisted I do it. Eventually the owner of the workshop (this is a chain of established businesses) called me and said and I’m not even lying....
“you need to find someone qualified in these engines to diagnose the fault you must come fetch the car”.
When I saw the state the car was in (something dripped on the boot and bumper and ate the paint as well) and everything was loose or broken in the engine bay, the coolant hose fell off when I shook it and they had drilled the oke glowplug out and it had ten errors on the dash etc I just felt ill. I abused the car but I kept it mechanically pristine, I enjoyed it and kept it maintained and I had 110% trust in the vehicle but knew from that moment on the car would never be the same again.
Then when they presented a nearly R10k bill I saw red. I told the owner of the shop if she didn’t release the car I would have it forcibly removed and she told me to try my luck, so I made my move.
The new owner has had a lot of trouble with the car. It needed new injectors (because apparently the Worksop left the injectors to dry out), needed the head reworked for a nee glow plug, apparently it sometimes smokes for no reason and sometimes just cuts out or misses. It kills me knowing that all of that was caused by a shitty workshop when all that was wrong was a stuck fuel sender and no diesel.
I’m relieved because it became someone else’s problem but it’s taught me never to trust another workshop again, and since then I supervise every service or I do it myself because these workshops out there are trash, and many don’t have the passion and love for your car that you do.
In 45 000km of hard mileage, tuned mileage and a shit ton of off road that Bmw never gave me a days problem and it took three months at a well known RMI Approved workshop to end all of that.
It’s testament to the build quality of these cars but goes to show as strong and well engineered as they are it only takes one monkey with a spanner to screw it all up.
I continuously asked for diagnostics reports and fault codes, I asked them to check the rail pressure which they confirmed multiple times was in spec (insinuating it had fuel), I was so over it by the end of the first month of trying to assist.
I was told by the workshop to just replace the engine and try as I might to explain it’s a rare engine (N47S) and that a used motor simply was not an option as it didn’t exist they insisted I do it. Eventually the owner of the workshop (this is a chain of established businesses) called me and said and I’m not even lying....
“you need to find someone qualified in these engines to diagnose the fault you must come fetch the car”.
When I saw the state the car was in (something dripped on the boot and bumper and ate the paint as well) and everything was loose or broken in the engine bay, the coolant hose fell off when I shook it and they had drilled the oke glowplug out and it had ten errors on the dash etc I just felt ill. I abused the car but I kept it mechanically pristine, I enjoyed it and kept it maintained and I had 110% trust in the vehicle but knew from that moment on the car would never be the same again.
Then when they presented a nearly R10k bill I saw red. I told the owner of the shop if she didn’t release the car I would have it forcibly removed and she told me to try my luck, so I made my move.
The new owner has had a lot of trouble with the car. It needed new injectors (because apparently the Worksop left the injectors to dry out), needed the head reworked for a nee glow plug, apparently it sometimes smokes for no reason and sometimes just cuts out or misses. It kills me knowing that all of that was caused by a shitty workshop when all that was wrong was a stuck fuel sender and no diesel.
I’m relieved because it became someone else’s problem but it’s taught me never to trust another workshop again, and since then I supervise every service or I do it myself because these workshops out there are trash, and many don’t have the passion and love for your car that you do.
In 45 000km of hard mileage, tuned mileage and a shit ton of off road that Bmw never gave me a days problem and it took three months at a well known RMI Approved workshop to end all of that.
It’s testament to the build quality of these cars but goes to show as strong and well engineered as they are it only takes one monkey with a spanner to screw it all up.
v1p3r
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My hometown!
