Cape Town's mixed bag

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
This is part 3.This is scary!!!!


I don't know where to start. If you have some skills you can DIY a portion of this. Driving down the road with untightened suspension bits and a clearly broken rear end (all of it) is certainly a choice. I assume still with no insurance too - risk of crashing into others or property damage doesn't enter his mind. Ah well.
 

KPM3_30

Senior Moderator
Staff member
I don't know where to start. If you have some skills you can DIY a portion of this. Driving down the road with untightened suspension bits and a clearly broken rear end (all of it) is certainly a choice. I assume still with no insurance too - risk of crashing into others or property damage doesn't enter his mind. Ah well.
Stupid is, as stupid does.
 

Greenz

///Member
He decided to ditch the plakkies and go barefoot for maximum scene points.


Then throws in some heated springs and coilovers.Includes some spirit level action as well.

 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
He decided to ditch the plakkies and go barefoot for maximum scene points.


Then throws in some heated springs and coilovers.Includes some spirit level action as well.


I actually had this on as background noise yesterday. Previously I'd just skimmed through within your post.

This is basically what people should watch to understand why "off grid" repairs are a problem. He has randomly changed things himself, left shit off, tried to somehow align the car with wheels and suspension AND steering rack still broken (one of the titles I saw says "the internet says the rack should be slightly bent" or something like that :rolleyes: ).

As much as panel shops and insurers are sharks, this is another level.

He then goes on to get used suspension, apparently from the same car but that has collars that are substantially different. He is measuring suspension gaps in fingers instead of with calipers. He then does a suspension job himself and has some banger lines in between, including "not intending to use things for long" or "more than a month" as well as somehow thinking he will be ready for wheel alignment the next day when there are not even the tools on hand to do things.

This is while the car has about R120K worth of bodywork to still be done... then he does all this and the wheel bearings are still shot. At every point in all these videos he says (paraphrasing) that everything that needs to be changed has been changed while they very obviously (to anyone with eyes, let alone any kind of knowledge of cars) there is ALOT left to change.

I think guys underestimate how well equipped workshops of youtubers are and how skilled they really are (if not them, then their teams) when doing rebuilds and making comments. The gift of sight would have helped alot here even without equipment and machines.

Cautionary tale to the uninsured and those who feel they can 'vibe repair' serious damage.
 

Teezoh

Well-known member
I actually had this on as background noise yesterday. Previously I'd just skimmed through within your post.

This is basically what people should watch to understand why "off grid" repairs are a problem. He has randomly changed things himself, left shit off, tried to somehow align the car with wheels and suspension AND steering rack still broken (one of the titles I saw says "the internet says the rack should be slightly bent" or something like that :rolleyes: ).

As much as panel shops and insurers are sharks, this is another level.

He then goes on to get used suspension, apparently from the same car but that has collars that are substantially different. He is measuring suspension gaps in fingers instead of with calipers. He then does a suspension job himself and has some banger lines in between, including "not intending to use things for long" or "more than a month" as well as somehow thinking he will be ready for wheel alignment the next day when there are not even the tools on hand to do things.

This is while the car has about R120K worth of bodywork to still be done... then he does all this and the wheel bearings are still shot. At every point in all these videos he says (paraphrasing) that everything that needs to be changed has been changed while they very obviously (to anyone with eyes, let alone any kind of knowledge of cars) there is ALOT left to change.

I think guys underestimate how well equipped workshops of youtubers are and how skilled they really are (if not them, then their teams) when doing rebuilds and making comments. The gift of sight would have helped alot here even without equipment and machines.

Cautionary tale to the uninsured and those who feel they can 'vibe repair' serious damage.
Agree, the guy is a dom p@e$, excuse my language but no other word could possibly express how dumb and irresponsible someone can be while documenting everything on youtube and possibly inspiring other people to take shortcuts like this.

These vibe influencers popping up left, right and center have no idea how badly they influence our youth.

Fckin mampara.
 

Peter@AEW

BMWFanatics Advertiser
Official Advertiser
I see nothing wrong in the way this car has been vandalised.
What I am trying to figure out is whether this gent has ever seen a vid from 539 restorations or legit Street cars etc and if he has what type of mind would find his level of repair comparable or suitable.
 

YozTruly

Well-known member
Agree, the guy is a dom p@e$, excuse my language but no other word could possibly express how dumb and irresponsible someone can be while documenting everything on youtube and possibly inspiring other people to take shortcuts like this.

These vibe influencers popping up left, right and center have no idea how badly they influence our youth.

Fckin mampara.
My worry is he will drive that car on the road once he is done with the “repairs”, it’s a death trap.

I’m otherwise impressed at how much money he is throwing into this “repair”. He has chosen the “cheap” route but it’s still costing real-world money.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
My worry is he will drive that car on the road once he is done with the “repairs”, it’s a death trap.

I’m otherwise impressed at how much money he is throwing into this “repair”. He has chosen the “cheap” route but it’s still costing real-world money.

The same thinking that resulted in the crash is now resulting in this approach.

I have noticed that many of the local Youtubers and Tiktokkers parrot the same tropes as Hoovie or Tavarish or Samcrac not realising at least part of this is theatre or exaggeration. In this case, I believe that he believes it is worth repairing for several reasons:

1. Blind belief that he is indeed like the other youtubers that have resources and sponsors or that this will get him sponsors. I initially thought that was his company on the back. If it was my company I would have paid to have his rear glass replaced on the basis that he never puts my logo on it again after this series.

Youtubers treat severe wrecks as calculated business investments long before they bid on a car or reveal it to their audiences. If a project fails or costs double, it's a tax write-off or subsidised by a sponsor or even sales of bits of the wreck that are signed by the audience's special internet friend that is definitely 'just like them'. This dude trying to fund a 335i rebuild out of pocket is playing a completely different game.

2. Sunk cost fallacy - He had an uninsured car that he obviously couldn't afford already and now the loss is too much to bear. Extra points if he is still paying it off. Seems possible. This car has no business being repaired. If he was smart he would have documented how he parted out the good parts and made enough money to put down a deposit on an M2/3 or something of that sort. Even swapping good bits across to a car he got with a blown motor for instance could have worked... This is going to bankrupt him if he goes on - and it will never be a good car again... or just even a safe car without spending its value over again. There is no shortcut to fixing it.

3. Desperation to save face: He has to show that he has built it against all odds or else - the reality is that this dude cannot buy another 335i or anything close to one to generate content. He has no skills to speak of. No talent to speak of and at this point his views seem to be from us watching the slow motion car wreck continuing. He initially made these videos available only to paid members probably thinking that it could generate some money AND limit some of the embarassment. There are probably few enough paid members that adsense is likely making him more money.
 

Teezoh

Well-known member
The same thinking that resulted in the crash is now resulting in this approach.

I have noticed that many of the local Youtubers and Tiktokkers parrot the same tropes as Hoovie or Tavarish or Samcrac not realising at least part of this is theatre or exaggeration. In this case, I believe that he believes it is worth repairing for several reasons:

1. Blind belief that he is indeed like the other youtubers that have resources and sponsors or that this will get him sponsors. I initially thought that was his company on the back. If it was my company I would have paid to have his rear glass replaced on the basis that he never puts my logo on it again after this series.

Youtubers treat severe wrecks as calculated business investments long before they bid on a car or reveal it to their audiences. If a project fails or costs double, it's a tax write-off or subsidised by a sponsor or even sales of bits of the wreck that are signed by the audience's special internet friend that is definitely 'just like them'. This dude trying to fund a 335i rebuild out of pocket is playing a completely different game.

2. Sunk cost fallacy - He had an uninsured car that he obviously couldn't afford already and now the loss is too much to bear. Extra points if he is still paying it off. Seems possible. This car has no business being repaired. If he was smart he would have documented how he parted out the good parts and made enough money to put down a deposit on an M2/3 or something of that sort. Even swapping good bits across to a car he got with a blown motor for instance could have worked... This is going to bankrupt him if he goes on - and it will never be a good car again... or just even a safe car without spending its value over again. There is no shortcut to fixing it.

3. Desperation to save face: He has to show that he has built it against all odds or else - the reality is that this dude cannot buy another 335i or anything close to one to generate content. He has no skills to speak of. No talent to speak of and at this point his views seem to be from us watching the slow motion car wreck continuing. He initially made these videos available only to paid members probably thinking that it could generate some money AND limit some of the embarassment. There are probably few enough paid members that adsense is likely making him more money.

The only possible explanation, if you ask me, started with a ChatGPT prompt somewhere along the lines of:

"So, for my YouTube channel, I fcked up my 335i. Can you help me fix it cheap while boosting my viewers and income?"

I can't see any sober human being doing these things without some sort of AI-fuelled delusion involved.

AI WILL have all the answers, and by default it WILL motivate him no matter how obvious the failure becomes.

If you look at his channel, this is actually the sad part. It has the exact recipe for it.

Early uploads, minimal views, and then suddenly the views spike when the algorithm starts rewarding what AI probably estimated would work: car troubles.

And that part is a fact. Viewers WANT to watch rebuilds. They want to watch people being reckless, making mistakes, or doing stupid AF shit. So in that sense, yes, AI is doing its job. Clean titles, content ideas, what to do, what not to do, what gets clicks.

The main problem is when you've got a potato driving the AI prompts and never challenging what it tells him.

If you don't challenge AI, you very quickly get delusion-driven motivation.

You see this clearly in the field I'm in.

As a full-stack developer, I'm now living in a world where we compete daily with Uncle Piet the mielieboer in Potch and his ChatGPT vibe coding.

"Why does my family member need to spend so much money on a developer if AI can shit out a SaaS platform in 10 minutes?"

And yes, technically it can.

That 10-minute drol might even look pretty good when you first open it.

But other than looking good, you can't do shit with it.

There's no actual functionality behind half of it. Forms don't work. And if they do work, what happens after the form submits? Where's the CRM flow? Validation? Security? Data handling? Integrations?

It's basically a polished turd.

Without going into developer-level detail, the point is that AI can create a massive amount of confidence and delusion for somebody who doesn't know enough to challenge what it's giving them.

Same thing here.

For a random guy whose YouTube journey basically started with a video called "Buying a lemon from WeBuyCars", he very quickly turned into a fckin knowledge-base mechanic.

He knows the part names. He knows where they're located. He knows what they're supposed to do.

But the narrow-minded AI guidance is missing all the important shit AROUND those parts that the rest of us can clearly see.

Why?

Because it wasn't part of the prompt.

The prompt was about the problematic part, so that's what gets tunnel visioned.

Unfortunately, we can get as mad as we want, but there's one thing his AI seems to be getting right: how to make money off viewer emotions.

He's getting the views. His monetization has kicked in. And he's probably going to milk this thing for everything it's worth until, who knows, maybe he actually ends up successful from it.

The only thing that genuinely pisses me off is having to accept that this piece of shit car he's working on is probably going to hit the public market at some point.

And then some family who doesn't know any better could end up buying it and potentially risking their safety driving the thing.

If that doesn't happen and he keeps it?

Then I truly don't give a fck.

Be the plakkie-whipping doos with your piece-of-shit clapped-out 335i all you want.

At least he's not robbing and killing people, right?
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
The only possible explanation, if you ask me, started with a ChatGPT prompt somewhere along the lines of:

"So, for my YouTube channel, I fcked up my 335i. Can you help me fix it cheap while boosting my viewers and income?"

I can't see any sober human being doing these things without some sort of AI-fuelled delusion involved.

AI WILL have all the answers, and by default it WILL motivate him no matter how obvious the failure becomes.

If you look at his channel, this is actually the sad part. It has the exact recipe for it.

Early uploads, minimal views, and then suddenly the views spike when the algorithm starts rewarding what AI probably estimated would work: car troubles.

And that part is a fact. Viewers WANT to watch rebuilds. They want to watch people being reckless, making mistakes, or doing stupid AF shit. So in that sense, yes, AI is doing its job. Clean titles, content ideas, what to do, what not to do, what gets clicks.

The main problem is when you've got a potato driving the AI prompts and never challenging what it tells him.

If you don't challenge AI, you very quickly get delusion-driven motivation.

You see this clearly in the field I'm in.

As a full-stack developer, I'm now living in a world where we compete daily with Uncle Piet the mielieboer in Potch and his ChatGPT vibe coding.

"Why does my family member need to spend so much money on a developer if AI can shit out a SaaS platform in 10 minutes?"

And yes, technically it can.

That 10-minute drol might even look pretty good when you first open it.

But other than looking good, you can't do shit with it.

There's no actual functionality behind half of it. Forms don't work. And if they do work, what happens after the form submits? Where's the CRM flow? Validation? Security? Data handling? Integrations?

It's basically a polished turd.

Without going into developer-level detail, the point is that AI can create a massive amount of confidence and delusion for somebody who doesn't know enough to challenge what it's giving them.

Same thing here.

For a random guy whose YouTube journey basically started with a video called "Buying a lemon from WeBuyCars", he very quickly turned into a fckin knowledge-base mechanic.

He knows the part names. He knows where they're located. He knows what they're supposed to do.

But the narrow-minded AI guidance is missing all the important shit AROUND those parts that the rest of us can clearly see.

Why?

Because it wasn't part of the prompt.

The prompt was about the problematic part, so that's what gets tunnel visioned.

Unfortunately, we can get as mad as we want, but there's one thing his AI seems to be getting right: how to make money off viewer emotions.

He's getting the views. His monetization has kicked in. And he's probably going to milk this thing for everything it's worth until, who knows, maybe he actually ends up successful from it.

The only thing that genuinely pisses me off is having to accept that this piece of shit car he's working on is probably going to hit the public market at some point.

And then some family who doesn't know any better could end up buying it and potentially risking their safety driving the thing.

If that doesn't happen and he keeps it?

Then I truly don't give a fck.

Be the plakkie-whipping doos with your piece-of-shit clapped-out 335i all you want.

At least he's not robbing and killing people, right?

The delusion that AI can generate is crazy. The challenge is people using it to create strategies. As a person who had a literal strategy consulting business this was insanely frustrating to deal with. Absolute moron dinosaurs in companies would take our proposal IN THE MEETING, pop it into their special friend and ASK IT TO POKE HOLES, then be surprised when it generates a host of holes to poke to make them look intelligent. Same goes for guys who proudly say they just ask AI to play devil's advocate then regurgitate the results. It actually makes them look stupid.

Alot of the time these are risks that you are already aware of - there is no such thing as a bulletproof/watertight/zero risk strategy in most industries. It is not just developers feeling this pain.

Mentally ill people are also using it as a therapist which is perhaps the most terrifying for me. I am sure there is also some metric about how many 40 and 50 year old morons ChatGPT has convinced that their wives were holding them back and that some 21 year old student is their real soul mate (AGAIN because it is just taking their own words and amplifying the delusion).
 

Teezoh

Well-known member
The delusion that AI can generate is crazy. The challenge is people using it to create strategies. As a person who had a literal strategy consulting business this was insanely frustrating to deal with. Absolute moron dinosaurs in companies would take our proposal IN THE MEETING, pop it into their special friend and ASK IT TO POKE HOLES, then be surprised when it generates a host of holes to poke to make them look intelligent. Same goes for guys who proudly say they just ask AI to play devil's advocate then regurgitate the results. It actually makes them look stupid.

Alot of the time these are risks that you are already aware of - there is no such thing as a bulletproof/watertight/zero risk strategy in most industries. It is not just developers feeling this pain.

Mentally ill people are also using it as a therapist which is perhaps the most terrifying for me. I am sure there is also some metric about how many 40 and 50 year old morons ChatGPT has convinced that their wives were holding them back and that some 21 year old student is their real soul mate (AGAIN because it is just taking their own words and amplifying the delusion).
Yeah, it's bizarre and you're right with other industries.

We're currently helping a family member who requires some medical treatment.
Got an email from a top-rated surgeon yesterday that ended with “I can also do a second pass to make it slightly shorter and punchier for the client without making it sound overly polished or corporate.”

I can let that slide, surgeons using it to clean up mail responses is still acceptable in some sense. Just stop being lazy, you don't copy and paste the entire fckin response, at least proofread it before sending.
 

AceRally

Well-known member
The delusion that AI can generate is crazy. The challenge is people using it to create strategies. As a person who had a literal strategy consulting business this was insanely frustrating to deal with. Absolute moron dinosaurs in companies would take our proposal IN THE MEETING, pop it into their special friend and ASK IT TO POKE HOLES, then be surprised when it generates a host of holes to poke to make them look intelligent. Same goes for guys who proudly say they just ask AI to play devil's advocate then regurgitate the results. It actually makes them look stupid.

Alot of the time these are risks that you are already aware of - there is no such thing as a bulletproof/watertight/zero risk strategy in most industries. It is not just developers feeling this pain.

Mentally ill people are also using it as a therapist which is perhaps the most terrifying for me. I am sure there is also some metric about how many 40 and 50 year old morons ChatGPT has convinced that their wives were holding them back and that some 21 year old student is their real soul mate (AGAIN because it is just taking their own words and amplifying the delusion).
True, AI is giving people overconfidence and a lot of times it just does confirmation bias. As someone who was a strategy consultant I would be interested on your view about this article:

 

Teezoh

Well-known member
True, AI is giving people overconfidence and a lot of times it just does confirmation bias. As someone who was a strategy consultant I would be interested on your view about this article:

I don’t think consulting itself is dead though. The same goes for pretty much any role being pressured by AI. The people with real experience, judgement and the ability to add something beyond what the tools can produce will probably become more valuable, not less.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
True, AI is giving people overconfidence and a lot of times it just does confirmation bias. As someone who was a strategy consultant I would be interested on your view about this article:


This world is alot more complex than it seems. Same goes for the creative world. It is usually 3 or 4 kids in a suit playing adult. Sometimes you even know everyone competitively working on a piece of work. The client has no idea and you are sworn to secrecy. Sometimes you are not even told who the client is (not in my cases but I've heard of this)

Alot of the time, the actual magic is just taking all the information in a business and building a coherent and credible story. This is really what every consulting company was doing, while also promising to do the "mess for less" or "lifting and shifting" LOL all the buzz words. It was making money off internal aphasia or dysfunction. Today we have a tool that can do this with more context than people are willing to share with consultants.

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So this bit here:

Mariana Mazzucato, in her study of the industry, puts it bluntly: the big firms often have “no expertise in the areas they’re advising in”. Clayton Christensen noted years ago that consulting had resisted scrutiny precisely because its work happens in “the black box of the team room”, where the client cannot see what it is paying for.

Is very true. There are cases where I've had email addresses assigned not just by big consulting firms but even corporates themselves. I have also seen work cobbled together and butchered to fit a narrative, but don't doubt that for the delivery phase, there is a mad scramble to cash the cheques that they have written and it involves consultants.

I am even on a group called "hogwarts detention" because it is the same people that get called for B2B GTM (and ICT GTM) for EVERYTHING.

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When there is a tender for eg: a multimillion rand digital platform redevelopment, the small guys never get the business despite quoting half, but the companies are happy to enlist the services of Accenture/PWC/Deloitte etc who themselves are subcontracting to an IT company or even one of the smaller guys. This has been the way it is for decades.

To cut a VERY long story short, ALL that work has basically dried up, first because they could do it in-house (apparently), then they had a brief death bounce where they needed help because the clients were all DIYing this in-house (especially with budget and EBITDA pressure). I had so much time at some point that I could make youtube and tiktok videos LOL. It did change though and the pendulum is moving a bit differently now.

In terms of what happens within the clients themselves:

At MTN I had a little 2IC following me around from McKinsey documenting an "as-is" process. His slideware was flawless and could rapidly be created because there were dozens of people sitting in a low-wage indian company literally pulling decks together.

All this is now replaced by AI. I think this bit is a good thing because there were always two sides to this coin: Creating visibility and cohesive messaging/sharing of info and then the predatory bit where you go in and position youself as the saviour that can bring this to life (VERY often overstated). Together with the faux-pas of the big houses getting caught doing GenAI reports recently, at least a correction of sorts or cutting them down to size is overdue.

TL;DR, the real opportunity is still in delivery and bringing things to life, which is something the big firms have always struggled with often having to collaborate with other entities and/or with freelancers or smaller operations. There are more large companies now willing to engage directly with the smaller guys who were 'doing the work anyway' that are able to basically 'get shit done' or help co-ordinating their teams internally.
 

AceRally

Well-known member
This world is alot more complex than it seems. Same goes for the creative world. It is usually 3 or 4 kids in a suit playing adult. Sometimes you even know everyone competitively working on a piece of work. The client has no idea and you are sworn to secrecy. Sometimes you are not even told who the client is (not in my cases but I've heard of this)

Alot of the time, the actual magic is just taking all the information in a business and building a coherent and credible story. This is really what every consulting company was doing, while also promising to do the "mess for less" or "lifting and shifting" LOL all the buzz words. It was making money off internal aphasia or dysfunction. Today we have a tool that can do this with more context than people are willing to share with consultants.

images


So this bit here:



Is very true. There are cases where I've had email addresses assigned not just by big consulting firms but even corporates themselves. I have also seen work cobbled together and butchered to fit a narrative, but don't doubt that for the delivery phase, there is a mad scramble to cash the cheques that they have written and it involves consultants.

I am even on a group called "hogwarts detention" because it is the same people that get called for B2B GTM (and ICT GTM) for EVERYTHING.

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When there is a tender for eg: a multimillion rand digital platform redevelopment, the small guys never get the business despite quoting half, but the companies are happy to enlist the services of Accenture/PWC/Deloitte etc who themselves are subcontracting to an IT company or even one of the smaller guys. This has been the way it is for decades.

To cut a VERY long story short, ALL that work has basically dried up, first because they could do it in-house (apparently), then they had a brief death bounce where they needed help because the clients were all DIYing this in-house (especially with budget and EBITDA pressure). I had so much time at some point that I could make youtube and tiktok videos LOL. It did change though and the pendulum is moving a bit differently now.

In terms of what happens within the clients themselves:

At MTN I had a little 2IC following me around from McKinsey documenting an "as-is" process. His slideware was flawless and could rapidly be created because there were dozens of people sitting in a low-wage indian company literally pulling decks together.

All this is now replaced by AI. I think this bit is a good thing because there were always two sides to this coin: Creating visibility and cohesive messaging/sharing of info and then the predatory bit where you go in and position youself as the saviour that can bring this to life (VERY often overstated). Together with the faux-pas of the big houses getting caught doing GenAI reports recently, at least a correction of sorts or cutting them down to size is overdue.

TL;DR, the real opportunity is still in delivery and bringing things to life, which is something the big firms have always struggled with often having to collaborate with other entities and/or with freelancers or smaller operations. There are more large companies now willing to engage directly with the smaller guys who were 'doing the work anyway' that are able to basically 'get shit done' or help co-ordinating their teams internally.
Very insightful thanks, especially about the big firms being trusted by default due to their size when the actual work gets done by smaller firms. It means we could rotate the economic benefit or boost the smaller firms if they could be trusted enough for direct engagement.
 

AceRally

Well-known member
I don’t think consulting itself is dead though. The same goes for pretty much any role being pressured by AI. The people with real experience, judgement and the ability to add something beyond what the tools can produce will probably become more valuable, not less.
True, AI will expose those who bs'ing and leave people who deliver value and real experience/insight beyond the tools.
 
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