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discussion Diesel prices
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TBP88
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Not by me. Honestly, the idea of a petrol daily has so little appeal to me at this point - it's noisier, less reliable, less spacious, and running costs if petrol goes up become absurd.And I got roasted for saying I'm contemplating an EV as a daily......
For what? The lovely drone of a 4cyl turbo engine connected to a CVT? Sitting in traffic going 20km/h dodging taxis?
An EV makes *MILES MILES MILES* more sense for this, and it'll mean more and cheaper petrol for actual fun activities! Bring on the EVs
Fordkoppie
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Everyone pro EV seems to forget that Eskom is implementing close to 9% tariff increase this year alone.
And they cant even supply the demand
And they cant even supply the demand
Bugger
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Exactly these reasons, that's where the conundrum has been sitting for me. And as the price of EVs starts to come down and the plethora of PHEVs available, it makes sense to start looking in that direction. The diesel prices are getting insane, and all the pitfalls that come with that specifically around transportation, driving up inflation, general costs etc. etc. Although I don't own a diesel, sitting with the V8 in the garage the car is going to start getting used less. Not that the X4 is much more frugal but decisions will need to be made. BYD Dolphin Surf FTW!
Bugger
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Run an extension lead from your neighbour đź‘€Everyone pro EV seems to forget that Eskom is implementing close to 9% tariff increase this year alone.
And they cant even supply the demand
Teezoh
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You either adapt or you get left behind. It’s that simple.
EVs might look like the obvious move right now, until Eskom drops a random loadshedding schedule out of nowhere and suddenly you’re sitting with a different kind of problem. Don’t get me wrong though, for a daily, it’s probably the smartest play overall.
But this is South Africa. Controlled chaos is the baseline, and that’s not changing anytime soon.
If you look at history, it’s the same cycle on repeat. Prices go up, dip slightly, and then continue climbing on a long-term curve. That’s reality. The focus shouldn’t be panic reactions, it should be how you position yourself to deal with it.
Selling your car the moment fuel spikes isn’t strategy, it’s reaction. And if that’s your mindset, you’re just moving with the sheep herd.
People have been losing their minds over costs, religion, politics. You name it..... since forever. The world’s “ending” every few years according to someone.
Personally, I adapted. I went fully work-from-home, moved within 2km of my son’s school. I could cut costs even more, drive less, walk, grab some tring-tring bikes with baskets.
But I don’t.
I still take the longer route, about 10km, every second day. And I drive it properly. Because that time in the car, that’s mine. It keeps me sane. It clears my head from all the noise.
So yeah, adapt where it makes sense. But don’t forget why you’re doing it in the first place.
EVs might look like the obvious move right now, until Eskom drops a random loadshedding schedule out of nowhere and suddenly you’re sitting with a different kind of problem. Don’t get me wrong though, for a daily, it’s probably the smartest play overall.
But this is South Africa. Controlled chaos is the baseline, and that’s not changing anytime soon.
If you look at history, it’s the same cycle on repeat. Prices go up, dip slightly, and then continue climbing on a long-term curve. That’s reality. The focus shouldn’t be panic reactions, it should be how you position yourself to deal with it.
Selling your car the moment fuel spikes isn’t strategy, it’s reaction. And if that’s your mindset, you’re just moving with the sheep herd.
People have been losing their minds over costs, religion, politics. You name it..... since forever. The world’s “ending” every few years according to someone.
Personally, I adapted. I went fully work-from-home, moved within 2km of my son’s school. I could cut costs even more, drive less, walk, grab some tring-tring bikes with baskets.
But I don’t.
I still take the longer route, about 10km, every second day. And I drive it properly. Because that time in the car, that’s mine. It keeps me sane. It clears my head from all the noise.
So yeah, adapt where it makes sense. But don’t forget why you’re doing it in the first place.
Yes they can. I am in the industry and the data is widely available. They have close to 10GW of free capacity. Your info isn't accurate. Dont confse generation with distribution. Its CP that is screwing people over with their lack of maintenance on the distribution level with burning substations etc.Everyone pro EV seems to forget that Eskom is implementing close to 9% tariff increase this year alone.
And they cant even supply the demand
Nope. There is multiple GW coming online in the country. Eskom is not the sole power producer anymore. Loadshedding wont be coming back for a long time. Nersa is handing out licenses for generation like hot cakes also.
Teezoh
Well-known member
Good to know thanks man!
Also not accurate. The only diesel they burn is what is contractually obligated by law to do based on the contracts signed years ago. They burn only the bare minimum.
Now I look like an Eskom supporter when I actually dont like them and my home is off-grid because I didnt want to pay them a cent for fixed charges or the rising electricity costs.
DRCraig
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I’ve been crunching the numbers on trading in my BMW F30 320d (worth +-R150k) for a R400k entry-level EV. On paper, everyone says "go electric to save money," but if you actually look at the capital outlay, it’s a hard sell.
The Setup:
To recover that R250,000 price difference purely through fuel savings, I need to drive:
If I drive 20,000km a year, it will take me 14 years just to break even on the purchase price. This doesn't even account for the interest if I were to finance that R250k gap—which would push the "break-even" point even further out.
The Verdict:
Unless your diesel is falling apart and facing R50k+ in repairs (injectors, turbo, DPF), or you have a massive solar array at home to charge for "free," the math says: Keep the diesel.
You aren't saving money by spending R250k to save R89 at the pump.
My 320d's are going nowhere.
The Setup:
- Current Car: BMW 320d (Paid off, worth circa R150k).
- New EV: R400k (e.g., BYD Dolphin or Cross PHEV).
- The Gap: R250,000 extra out of my pocket.
- 320d: At 5.5L/100km and Diesel at ~R26.50/L, I’m paying R145 per 100km.
- EV: At 16kWh/100km and home charging at ~R3.50/kWh, it’s R56 per 100km.
- Savings: I save R89 for every 100km I drive.
To recover that R250,000 price difference purely through fuel savings, I need to drive:
If I drive 20,000km a year, it will take me 14 years just to break even on the purchase price. This doesn't even account for the interest if I were to finance that R250k gap—which would push the "break-even" point even further out.
The Verdict:
Unless your diesel is falling apart and facing R50k+ in repairs (injectors, turbo, DPF), or you have a massive solar array at home to charge for "free," the math says: Keep the diesel.
You aren't saving money by spending R250k to save R89 at the pump.
My 320d's are going nowhere.
Teezoh
Well-known member
This isn’t a power grid, it’s a bad tune. Spikes, dips, no consistency… who mapped this thing?
modocrat
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Does look like all the used ones are sold. Only new ones available on Autotrader. I checked last month and there were a ton of low mileage used ones. So we arent the only ones on the forum looking at EVs.
Should have gotten an Xcede tuneThis isn’t a power grid, it’s a bad tune. Spikes, dips, no consistency… who mapped this thing?
