ZAR taking a dump...

MaX

New member
ChefDJ@TheFanatics said:
peanut125i said:
Atleast we don't have to worry about the van Rooyen chap anymore.


Yeah but what damage has he already done over the weekend...?

I think its fairly safe to say the chap didnt work over the weekend... He is from the ANC after all :rollsmile::rollsmile:
 

peanut125i

Active member
ChefDJ@TheFanatics said:
peanut125i said:
Atleast we don't have to worry about the van Rooyen chap anymore.


Yeah but what damage has he already done over the weekend...?
Tbh, I think Zuma damaged himself more than anything else. Hopefully everyone will finally see what an idiot he is and what makes me happy is that he crumbled to pressure and did not go the dictator route and stuck to his choice of last week.


MaX said:
ChefDJ@TheFanatics said:
peanut125i said:
Atleast we don't have to worry about the van Rooyen chap anymore.


Yeah but what damage has he already done over the weekend...?

I think its fairly safe to say the chap didnt work over the weekend... He is from the ANC after all :rollsmile::rollsmile:
Lol, that comment made my day.
 

Ratslaaf

///Member
Faaaark...

I've got some pretty expensive ECU tools I need to buy and the poor ZAR is making it impossible for to do so. In Aug it would've cost me R50k, now I'm looking at R65k. So pointless trying to save up for it it seems.
 

Riaanv1

New member
Funny to read the first post here, where R 10.89 was seen as bad. Now it's heading for R20/$.

Sad state of affairs gents. :(
 

OPC+PACK

New member
I was in Holland for 3 weeks over the December period and about 2 days after landing the rand to euro was 17.55 :blueCry: Plus I got engaged while there so I am now beyond broke :bin:
 

Bayn46

Active member
Budget speech next month, and I don't expect anything meaningful to come out of it, just more vague comments.

Expect it to keep dropping and then expect junk status by middle of the year.
 

Bayn46

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Riaanv1 said:
Aren't we at junk status already?
Nope, just set to a negative outlook. One more drop and we're going to have a worse crisis than the last time this happened, as previously we didn't rely on other countries as much as we do now.

I think the ratings are done middle of the year.
 

MaX

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Bayn46 said:
Budget speech next month, and I don't expect anything meaningful to come out of it, just more vague comments.

Expect it to keep dropping and then expect junk status by middle of the year.

So this is what is going to happen:
1. End of this month, they are going to hike interest rates again to try and kerb the rand (which will obviously not work)
2. They are probably going to hammer us with a VAT increase
3. Sin tax is going to get moered
4. They are probably going to increase the Super Tax even more

Then, when OPEC is done playing their games, and trust me, they are playing games, brent will jump back to around 100USD a barrel and we will be looking at R20+ a liter of fuel. That + having to import food at USD rate due to drought etc will push inflation into the red which would require more interest rate hikes. This would mean the people of the country would want more money because they cant afford petrol or food, which means more strikes, which means more production losses, which means they need to hike prices to stay in green pushing inflation even harder, leading to more interest rate hikes... Going to be a great year
 

Bayn46

Active member
MaX said:
Bayn46 said:
Budget speech next month, and I don't expect anything meaningful to come out of it, just more vague comments.

Expect it to keep dropping and then expect junk status by middle of the year.

So this is what is going to happen:
1. End of this month, they are going to hike interest rates again to try and kerb the rand (which will obviously not work)
2. They are probably going to hammer us with a VAT increase
3. Sin tax is going to get moered
4. They are probably going to increase the Super Tax even more

Then, when OPEC is done playing their games, and trust me, they are playing games, brent will jump back to around 100USD a barrel and we will be looking at R20+ a liter of fuel. That + having to import food at USD rate due to drought etc will push inflation into the red which would require more interest rate hikes. This would mean the people of the country would want more money because they cant afford petrol or food, which means more strikes, which means more production losses, which means they need to hike prices to stay in green pushing inflation even harder, leading to more interest rate hikes... Going to be a great year
I feel like VAT will happen last because they want to hide what they can from their voters, even though a VAT increase would do a world of good in terms of generating funds.

Fuel levy will also be on the cards. But in between all of this, we still have plenty spare cash for poorly structured nuclear deals and ridiculous government spending habits.
 

ChefDJ

///Member
Rand hits R17.99 to US Dollar

South Africa’s currency has hit a new low against the US dollar, continuing its downward spiral.


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South Africa’s currency has hit a new low against the US dollar, continuing its downward spiral.

According to Reuters, late Sunday night – as Asian markets opened – the rand tanked to as low as R17.99 to the US dollar before pulling back to R17.25.

In trade on Monday morning, the rand was trading at R16.72 to the dollar – a new record low, since hitting its weakest point on Friday.

According to reports, the reason behind the latest dip is Japanese sellers – who are selling rand for dollars.


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Analysts warned that the rand is currently at the mercy of external factors – most notably, trading circumstances in Asian markets – and that there may be worse to come.

Economist Mike Schussler from Economists.co.za sketched a grim scenario for the South African economy should the rand lose 20% of its value against the greenback in 2016.

Last year the rand gave up 25.9% of its value.

“If the rand should fall just another 20% over the next year… by the beginning of 2017 a dollar would cost R20,” he said.


Source


:thumbdo::thumbdo::thumbdo:
 

MaX

New member
Right, so after they stole some more money from us with the "aggressive" interest rate hike, the rand retreated below R16 to the dollar. Newspapers were applauding SARB for the move whilst pointing at the rand sitting around R15.89... Since then, 2 more articles featured about Zooma giving his comrades money from state coffers including one to the tune of R1.7bn. So of course, like Zooma would say, the market "overreacted" and now we are worse off than before the hike :ty:

Its like one of the FNB economists said, trying to fix supply side inflation with interest rate hikes is like pushing a rope... Well done comrades, loot dem coffers harder, your term is almost over!
 

444YYY

Honorary ///Member
So.... Zuma indicated he is willing to pay back part of Nkandla fees.

Waiting to see the positive effect on the Rand...
 
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