Looting!

[dvst8]

What happens is the following, based on personal intimate knowledge.

The transport company allows the public to take the damaged merchandise. They are insured and also save on salvage costs.

Most if not all the time, the public are "looting" with permision. When its food im just glad its not going to waste.

 

[Carbon]

How is that even remotely the same?

A Refrigerated truck turned over last year, some of the boxes were damaged, but most were not, a second truck on its way to come and save the load.
R150k worth of meat was stolen that day, assuming about 50k was damaged from cctv cameras.
Company is insured from 1million onwards per year.

Dead loss to the company.

In fact, the driver was injured inside the cab, no-one came to help him.

That is how it is relevant.


LOOTING IS STEALING - insurance is irrelevant.

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

Don't come with orphanage stories because I doubt it would even be in the minds of the owners of this business right now. They've just lost a very valuable vehicle and most likely have a very angry client to deal with who isn't going to receive their order.

I can come with it, as I have experienced it. The topic on hand is about the loot being taken, and I stated why some people would loot it, ie there is many hungry people out there.
How much time have you spend with homeless orphans? I have spend countless hours with them, and can tell you, that of the people that will eat that food tonight, would have gone to bed hungry, after you and me had a nice warm meal.

While it is not legal or right, for people to take the loot. It is understandable in my mind. Well that's my 2c

Yes a delivery will be late, and a vehicle damaged. I agree, just the effort for the company to deal with the insurance claims is not going to be easy.

 

[Donovan2412]

Why is this allowed, I just don't understand it and it pisses me off so much!

Jump in your car and go stop the looters??


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Not worth my life, I have a family!

Don't you think that's what the truck driver said?


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Maybe he's the one who called them:roflol:

 

[DieselFan]

Stealing is stealing. Lock them up. How do you know the goods are insured?

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[Fuzz@tinyNET]

How is that even remotely the same?

A Refrigerated truck turned over last year, some of the boxes were damaged, but most were not, a second truck on its way to come and save the load.
R150k worth of meat was stolen that day, assuming about 50k was damaged from cctv cameras.
Company is insured from 1million onwards per year.

Dead loss to the company.

In fact, the driver was injured inside the cab, no-one came to help him.

That is how it is relevant.


LOOTING IS STEALING - insurance is irrelevant.

When they say 'save the load' it isn't as noble as you make it out to be - they take everything and try to re-process it. In all fairness, it is their stock and they are allowed to do with it what they must though.

Taking it a step forward however, working with a lot of clients in food bev and having intimate access to what exactly goes on in plants, I can't say that I'm unhappy about people in that industry losing loads after what they subject the public to and leading them to believe that their product is great quality.


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[Teebag]

And again!

 

[Carbon]

^^^ This is sad! Hope the offenders get caught!

When they say 'save the load' it isn't as noble as you make it out to be

Frozen boxes of meat. If the packaging is not damaged then there is no reason to discard it.

 

[WyKiD]

Its easy to preach wrong and right from ones priviledged pulpit, so rather let perishables waste as opposed to people taking it. Same people have more compassion for their pets than humans, regardless of their circumstances.

I do not condone stealing but at the same time not everything is black and white, there is always a grey area....

 

[ChefDJ]

Don't come with orphanage stories because I doubt it would even be in the minds of the owners of this business right now. They've just lost a very valuable vehicle and most likely have a very angry client to deal with who isn't going to receive their order.

I can come with it, as I have experienced it. The topic on hand is about the loot being taken, and I stated why some people would loot it, ie there is many hungry people out there.
How much time have you spend with homeless orphans? I have spend countless hours with them, and can tell you, that of the people that will eat that food tonight, would have gone to bed hungry, after you and me had a nice warm meal.

While it is not legal or right, for people to take the loot. It is understandable in my mind. Well that's my 2c

Yes a delivery will be late, and a vehicle damaged. I agree, just the effort for the company to deal with the insurance claims is not going to be easy.

Reply to that quote as a whole, not to the first 5 words.

I'm not saying we should not think about orphanages.

 

[ET was here]

entitlement culture

if you dont look after it, then I am entitled to loot it

 

[WyKiD]

Lols....old ingrained and sanctimonious tendencies certainly do die hard......

 

[Ratslaaf]

If the truck carried boxes of TVs and the guys were looting it, would that be OK too? It's mos insured.

 

[msm]

Scenario 1:
If a truck spills over one loaf of bread and a starving person takes it without permission, it's stealing. No grey area about it. The general consensus is that it would be morally acceptable because it would go to waste in any case.

Scenario 2:
If a truck spills over a load of TV's or phones, it's still stealing to take it. Morally unacceptable though in this case. Even if they stated they were stealing to sell, get money to feed a starving family. The end does not justify the means.

Scenario 1 has grey areas of morality for goods that would literally go down the drain
Scenario 2 does not - it's wrong in every sense

The extremes we have is that whilst there is an an element of starvation in our country, there is also some pure savagery in our society. Scenario 1 sadly has both elements whenever something "tips over".

 

[DieselFan]

Yes the guy in the button down is about to die of starvation.

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[Fuzz@tinyNET]

As was mentioned earlier, it's easy to take the moral high ground in this matter and treat this like a crime against humanity.

When the very same people are defrauded from their life savings, etc by dubious financial schemes, it isn't debated as hotly as this.

This sums up everything that is wrong with the world:

It's inexcusable to take from the rich, but it's fine to turn a blind eye when people take from the poor.

At the end of the day, we are human, and when presented the opportunity, we'll always give in to our primal urges - situations like these fuel them. It's really sad when a mine has to retrench people to ensure that the board members maintain their bonuses, yet let the retrenched workers protest that very same injustice and they're labeled as barbarians, who deserve their fate.

All in all, when you have a decent bank balance and a stable income, it's easy to call everyone else out, but chances are if your circumstance wasn't as cushy, you'd probably do the same...


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[MikeR]

:YesNo::YesNo: wrong wrong wrong

 

[Gizmo]

This thread is full of :biglol:

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

Its easy to preach wrong and right from ones privileged pulpit, so rather let perishables waste as opposed to people taking it. Same people have more compassion for their pets than humans, regardless of their circumstances.

I do not condone stealing but at the same time not everything is black and white, there is always a grey area....

+1

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Scenario 1:
If a truck spills over one loaf of bread and a starving person takes it without permission, it's stealing. No grey area about it. The general consensus is that it would be morally acceptable because it would go to waste in any case.

Scenario 2:
If a truck spills over a load of TV's or phones, it's still stealing to take it. Morally unacceptable though in this case. Even if they stated they were stealing to sell, get money to feed a starving family. The end does not justify the means.

Scenario 1 has grey areas of morality for goods that would literally go down the drain
Scenario 2 does not - it's wrong in every sense

The extremes we have is that whilst there is an an element of starvation in our country, there is also some pure savagery in our society. Scenario 1 sadly has both elements whenever something "tips over".

+1

 

[Blaino]

Teach them how to FISH so they eat forever... :tiptoe::rollsmile::biglol: