5 cheapest NEW BMWs in SA today

VinceM

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I think we have three generations of BMW fans

Those that love the earlier designs (E28, E30, E34, E36, E38, etc) - Ultimate Driving Machine

Those that are stuck in mid-modernisation (Later E series and F series, e.g. E46, E87, E92, F10, F30, F80, F82, etc.) - Sheer Driving Pleasure

Then the new offerings (G what what) - no idea what the new slogan is. Too much plastic and plasma screens.

I can tell majority of the forum members are still in Camp 1 and 2. Would rather take that money and buy from those generations (albeit difficult to find mint versions for sale)


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Mytfine

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I think we have three generations of BMW fans

Those that love the earlier designs (E28, E30, E34, E36, E38, etc) - Ultimate Driving Machine

Those that are stuck in mid-modernisation (Later E series and F series, e.g. E46, E87, E92, F10, F30, F80, F82, etc.) - Sheer Driving Pleasure

Then the new offerings (G what what) - no idea what the new slogan is. Too much plastic and plasma screens.

I can tell majority of the forum members are still in Camp 1 and 2. Would rather take that money and buy from those generations (albeit difficult to find mint versions for sale)


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Correct you are, my brain on seeing the cheapest new one automatically calculates how many nice used older ones i can fill my garage with🤣
 

TBP88

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I think E46 is a lot closer to E36 than it is to the E9x series cars. But agreed. the new stuff is all just amazingly expensive.
 

FiRi@Rennzport

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Yes, prices are high, but I recall a new E90 330i being 400k plus in 2005, which is not cheap at all for the time either.

The problem is that earning isn't in lone with inflation, and the cost of living has just gone nuts.

Either way, I love all 3 camps, every one of them has something to offer which the other doesn't and one has to appreciate them for their time period. Owning one from every era and getting to drive them when you please would be the ultimate dream.

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TBP88

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Yes, prices are high, but I recall a new E90 330i being 400k plus in 2005, which is not cheap at all for the time either.

The problem is that earning isn't in lone with inflation, and the cost of living has just gone nuts.

Either way, I love all 3 camps, every one of them has something to offer which the other doesn't and one has to appreciate them for their time period. Owning one from every era and getting to drive them when you please would be the ultimate dream.

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You're right but the acceleration in entry level car pricing is wild - a 330i in 01 was around R250k base, perhaps R300k with ALL the options, that's sub R1m in today's money. A fully kitted 340i is probably more like R1.6m
 

Spanky

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Just depressing.

As much as I love cars, I simply can't justify the new price paradigm we find ourselves in. I've decided to not play these games - all funds have been diverted to investments and long-term wealth creation. I'll keep enjoying my 12yo car.

Perhaps one day my purchasing power improves and I might reconsider.
 

Eust

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Just depressing.

As much as I love cars, I simply can't justify the new price paradigm we find ourselves in. I've decided to not play these games - all funds have been diverted to investments and long-term wealth creation. I'll keep enjoying my 12yo car.

Perhaps one day my purchasing power improves and I might reconsider.
100%.

I have my own metric on when a car is affordable for me as a whole - purchase price including running cost of all loss making lifestyle "assets" needs to be less than 10% of overall incoming generating assets (Houses predominantly).

So for example I buy a R200k car, I need to have a R2M income generating asset. Yield etc I know I am generally 1% so I manage that in the background, but for simplicity sake that's the theory.
 
I will just drive my F30 till the wheels fall off. I cant see myself spending this kind of money. If I am honest with myself I did pay a lot for my car, but there is no way I can replace it for the same money in the current economy.
I agree with What Firi and TP88 is saying.
 

NBN

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I always ask myself, how much money is someone bringing home after tax to be able to afford some of these cars. Let's be honest, nowadays a million rand is not alot of money when shopping for a car, but how much must you be taking home if your car installment alone is +-R20k and that excludes insurance, fuel, maintenance plus your bond, school fees etc etc

I make myself sad when I think of the context of the above , LOL.
 

VinceM

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I always ask myself, how much money is someone bringing home after tax to be able to afford some of these cars. Let's be honest, nowadays a million rand is not alot of money when shopping for a car, but how much must you be taking home if your car installment alone is +-R20k and that excludes insurance, fuel, maintenance plus your bond, school fees etc etc

I make myself sad when I think of the context of the above , LOL.

Creative finance plans makes it easier to get folks into these cars.

My metric is backward I must admit. The car I can afford is the one I can buy cash. No financed cars.

Punitive in a lot of ways, though helps with a goodnight sleep.
 

TurboLlew

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You're right but the acceleration in entry level car pricing is wild - a 330i in 01 was around R250k base, perhaps R300k with ALL the options, that's sub R1m in today's money. A fully kitted 340i is probably more like R1.6m

If you take performance, size and improvements in safety/techology, I'd argue that the 340i is beyond anything BMW offered back then... by all metrics except subjective ones like "analogueness" or "feel".

You can buy a BMW for R1M today that will handily beat a 330i of 2001 by nearly every metric... but that is the only positive I have to say: It doesn't make R1M any less painful of a pill to swallow nor any easier to make in 2024. It also becomes less of a 'coping mechanism' or 'fun fact' when you realise if our inflation was 'only' as bad as the US market, that same calculation would wind up at R525K

@NBN We all have our ways of dealing with the cost of vehicles and our comfort levels. @Eust mentions a good one. I always make sure that if a car has no motorplan it ain't gonna be financed... Plenty of passionate people out there will make a plan to get what they want... also (unfortunately) plenty that will make a plan to appear to be doing better than they are in reality and beyond any sanity... Comparison is the thief of joy as the quote goes, and these days we are comparing ourselves to what are basically fairytales online.

I think a few times we've mentioned things like everyone seeming equal (or talking big) until the tide goes out and you see who has been swimming naked. That has BEEN happening the past few years I feel. The eventual failure of the Golf 8R to sell is evidence that the band aids are ready to snap. Good vibes online and snarky comments from broke dumbasses about a million rands being 'great value' wasn't enough to get people to ACTUALLY spend R1.2M on a Golf. That said, there are indeed all the usual creative ways of buying cars without really owning them... but the people caught up (or burned) by the last wave of creative options are now reluctant to take them up as well. I've also been presented options of R40K/month+ as though it's 'normal' by sales people... so don't worry you aren't the only one who feels poor (and you are constantly reminded of this no matter what you're buying).

The reality is that many people that you see on here buying a car over R1M will put in a sizeable deposit and manage the cost down to a 'comfortable' point of R15-20K (maybe a bit more). The rest buy cash but won't necessarily admit to it (especially not in SA). In my case I also inject money into it if I feel it is creeping up with interest rate adjustments and you will know at what point things don't make sense anymore vs your target disposable income. It's a personal thing either way and I doubt you will ever really know who is not sleeping the day the payments are meant to go off vs who doesn't even notice (who are themselves even further away from those who just buy cash like it's nothing) :ROFLMAO:. Always bigger fish, everywhere on one hand... and on the other an endless supply of people trying to keep up, destroying their lives in the process.

While I can absolutely relate to the way @Spanky feels, I also feel like at this point in my life I want to balance enjoyment vs. some theoretical future where my investments or retirement funds will pay off. It isn't that they aren't there as much as my faith in some cataclysmic thing (natural, man made or market related) wiping them out is much greater than my belief that I will be able to retire on them (no matter what financial planners or projections say). Saving every last cent during your productive years is a mistake IMHO. I feel like most millennials feel this way. For the most part, "mundane" investments are the ones that have worked out best for me in the (probably) past 10 years and those will definitely not beat inflation at the rate things are going.

Anyway enough depressing content for today LOL
 

MR_Y

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When I bought my 2013 911 C2S, I was also considering a nearly new M240i with all the modern bells and whistles for the same price.

After working out the maths and the fact that I change cars frequently, it was clear that a 11 year old 911 would keep its value better than a new BMW. It made more financial sense 😄

Granted, there are other non-financial reasons as well that swayed me but that will be discussed in a future thread :)...
 

NBN

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Creative finance plans makes it easier to get folks into these cars.

My metric is backward I must admit. The car I can afford is the one I can buy cash. No financed cars.

Punitive in a lot of ways, though helps with a goodnight sleep.
I have the same belief. My late dad had a saying, if you can't afford to make a purchase with what you have in your account, can you really afford it? Other then my bond, those are words that Iv always lived by and I only have an use my credit card for emergencies and for travel
 

VinceM

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