Tough times for IT professionals in South Africa

momoPike

Active member
Steph745 said:
This is a bit scary :( . So in the Business Intelligence/Analytics and Cyber Security spaces what certifications would any of you guys recommend to pursue? It's time to learn new tricks, but there's so much info out there it's hard to drill all this down to a clear and concise way forward.


Was told CISSP AND CISSM when I looked a couple years back
 

Dirtydeedsman

Active member
Steph745 said:
This is a bit scary :( . So in the Business Intelligence/Analytics and Cyber Security spaces what certifications would any of you guys recommend to pursue? It's time to learn new tricks, but there's so much info out there it's hard to drill all this down to a clear and concise way forward.

Get yourself a CISSP cert, it still holds some water. If its too much then maybe CISA or CISM or CEH but CISSP seems to be king of the hill
 

kilotango

New member
Steph745 said:
This is a bit scary :( . So in the Business Intelligence/Analytics and Cyber Security spaces what certifications would any of you guys recommend to pursue? It's time to learn new tricks, but there's so much info out there it's hard to drill all this down to a clear and concise way forward.

speaking of BI, we did a recent test with MS PowerBI a few weeks ago without the usual BI guys involved...and it was surprisingly good and easy to setup.

was a straight Sysad --> GM/Marketing Manager manoeuvre.

i think BI could possibly have a shelf life too, from what i've seen.
 

NBN

Well-known member
kilotango said:
Steph745 said:
This is a bit scary :( . So in the Business Intelligence/Analytics and Cyber Security spaces what certifications would any of you guys recommend to pursue? It's time to learn new tricks, but there's so much info out there it's hard to drill all this down to a clear and concise way forward.

speaking of BI, we did a recent test with MS PowerBI a few weeks ago without the usual BI guys involved...and it was surprisingly good and easy to setup.

was a straight Sysad --> GM/Marketing Manager manoeuvre.

i think BI could possibly have a shelf life too, from what i've seen.

I am trying to get into the B.I space at work , do you guys have advice? Courses you would recommend etc?
 

Steph745

Member
Thanks for the pointers guys. I've already seen the shift at work, core system has moved to cloud and like someone already mentioned that's just somebody else's PC sitting somewhere. The finance people love that it comes with the potential for headcount reduction :fencelook: . The benefits are 'nice' on paper but just ask our clients how happy they are with the constant issues and outages... also a major move towards virtualisation of all peripheral system servers, and moving from client-based to web based-applications. Everything is changing and changing quickly. But costs and maintaining the bottomline is the driver of everything, not necessarily the pursuit of better processes and such. They will still need people but they will need them to do different things, I personally think job cuts are a very short term solution, guess it just depends where you are in the foodchain.
 

Dirtydeedsman

Active member
Steph745 said:
Thanks for the pointers guys. I've already seen the shift at work, core system has moved to cloud and like someone already mentioned that's just somebody else's PC sitting somewhere. The finance people love that it comes with the potential for headcount reduction :fencelook: . The benefits are 'nice' on paper but just ask our clients how happy they are with the constant issues and outages... also a major move towards virtualisation of all peripheral system servers, and moving from client-based to web based-applications. Everything is changing and changing quickly. But costs and maintaining the bottomline is the driver of everything, not necessarily the pursuit of better processes and such. They will still need people but they will need them to do different things, I personally think job cuts are a very short term solution, guess it just depends where you are in the foodchain.

Its worse when IT is under Finance department. We fall under Finance were I work and I can tell you these accounts guys see numbers that's all
 

cOlDFuSiOn

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Having been in IT for almost a decade now, I must say that what I find as the correct way to stay ahead of the curve is to change what you do every 2/3 years.. That way you build up a multitude of skills in the larger ecosystem. IT is a massive field, to focus on just one area is dangerous, just as a developer that chooses a purist path to 'only' write code for the JVM or others that purely decide 'serverless' ECMAScript style apps are the future will soon find themselves in trouble...

You start to become an expert in a certain field of IT and perhaps earn major cash for that in your company, when that skillset starts to change or shift priority you might need to leave and even take a major pay cut depending on where you go or be unemployable.. Scarce skills in IT in SA is a bit of a misnomer, must be careful to not think you are irreplacable..

Onprem hosting and servers, etc is a thing of the past, cloud support is so widespread companies don't even need onsite 'experts' for that, a lot of IT is moving towards being autonomous. RPA is but one example too.. Being in Testing is scary too, once thing are automated you go from having a team to having like 1 or 2 people..

I am very lucky to have ensured that I never remained in a comfort zone, won't say I am an Expert in everything and surely I am not, but I have worked with and know enough about various aspects of a lot of IT which helps when one vendor or branch of IT shifts focus.

All this being said I just got back from a major Intl tech conference and the global IT market is open.. If you don't come right in SA.. The world is yours..

Skill up, never stop learning, reinvent yourself and you will survive the IT market.. My 2c has always been what we did last year is irrelevant, the code we wrote last month is no longer of use.. Our architectural patterns come to end of life in a matter of 2 or 3 years now not decades.. That is the pace, that is how you need to be on top of things to ride the wave..
 

zaleonardz

Well-known member
All of this said, and I agree with everything, but there is still one niche that we cannot find enough people for.

MS SQL, or Oracle, a game which one to choose, but there is a large demand for the MS Stack, and if you couple that with some form of business acumen, your golden.

I did an MBA with specifics in finance and accounting, and I am also MCSA SQL certified.... no shortage of work, and I can even guide you to some employment agencies, resources are scarce.

Then of course a cert in a good BI tool, QlikView, Tableau or even SAS, your golden.

If you then take that one step further, and go for the data science disciplines, such as Python and R ect, coupled with a stats degree, I can get you work tomorrow...

I have been in IT since the last 90's and have had to adapt several times. Each time reinventing.

Currently I serve as business architect for finance and content at a large corporate, I just survived a section 189, most of our department of over 100 people did, and future is stable.

Big data people, machine learning, all that... but don't just know the bus words, actually certify and use the tech,

Not to mention this line of study will instantly put you on the scarce skills shortage list for most 1st world countries with a couple of years experience.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
There are parallels to other shifts everywhere. What cOlDFuSiOn and zaleonardz says is true.

I read some of the responses and chatting to people, frankly, I am concerned that people are not seeing what is coming... technology has become interwoven amongst many jobs. My wife has been working in clinical research for 11 years at one company. In 11 years they haven't just automated certain things or 'cleaned up processes' or adopted new tech. The industry has gone from manual capture and queuing patients to patients wearing monitors, digitally capturing information, using more modern connected devices etc to generate massive pools of already semi-structured data without risk of transcription error. This happens at dozens of places in SA and can be rolled up on regional and global basis almost in real time. This means some doctors left at the unit that were not retrenched or subject to attrition strategy are literally working half-day. Same with nurses... Same with data capturers... etc. The IT layer supporting people, devices and infrastructure has shrunk DRAMATICALLY whilst job complexity has increased, again DRAMATICALLY.

Once the data is actually collected there is no longer a need for masses of space to store files (and worrying about loss, theft, damage etc) nor the need for storage or processing power on site. Companies that she is interviewing at take up literally a third of the space for a larger operation. Each study has a cloud-based analytics/cognitive computing engine as opposed to the SAS dev/statistician on site (split over many studies). They literally only have actual flesh-and-blood statisticians sitting somewhere in Belgium. Data scientists are the new critical link in the chain. The stuff they build directly influences reporting, decision making, regulatory and even applications for ethics etc. Consistency, accuracy, time to market - all critical in pharma and all things that are made worse when more people are involved in the chain.

This is all to illustrate that there is a massive blindspot and companies still think that everyone is finding it hard to go paperless or into the cloud or analytics or cognitive computing or the future is still far away or x, y, z. If you are in such a company, you should be terrified because adapting to a 'better job' down the line might be tough even if you get it. My wife is highly qualified and experienced in science as well as project management. They are actually speaking a different language at newer or 'more current' companies. It is as though her experience is null-and-void. I had to give her a crash course on the above before going for an interview based on the case study they sent. You are actually borderline unemployable if you've worked at a 'traditional' company (and guess what's happening to those?)... don't think even if your company is big or has too many legacy systems that it can't happen.

10 years ago, she would be smiling in a job that took minimal effort outside managing people with a large pool of people. Current reality is very different. You have to take a holistic view of the organisation. I've been blessed to have some of the best Finance people I've worked with in my career who understand this. However, the bottom lines of companies are shrinking and tech in many instances is only enabling them to survive. That 5% saving on OpEx moving to the cloud makes? It means your mate in marketing or finance or perhaps even sitting next to you still has a job as opposed to entering situations where the entire company has to shut down (or slowly dies).

Chatbots/AI call centres/Marketing automation platforms... we think that IT people are going to have jobs whilst the poor client services people will take the hit... When I speak at conferences I actually take the dev with me that has worked with us, liberty, MMI etc... there are 5 of them... That's the whole company. It is more powerful to see a real example of how SMEs can disrupt, can solve business needs and is a vivid reminder that nobody can be replaced these days whether you are technical or creative or back office or client facing... My team has gone from 28 down to 12 (we do more work now as well). My need is to automate a lot of what I used to employ 25% or 33% of a human being to do. They help me achieve this despite my lack of resource and for literally 10% of what that person would cost. IT folks with vision and talent need to be building that kind of side hustle in the analytics and sophisticated application space that actually takes the whole market and business' needs into consideration. I could not find this in-house in IT despite the 'on-paper' skill being there... Being a cert collector is one thing... when someone in your business comes to you with a problem like this, what do you do? Can you do it? I have a few similar stories as well.

Continuing briefly, we've discovered people treat the bot 'more kindly' than a flesh-and-blood human being. At Gartner I had a very brief floor session at the ITXpo and shared the deck I share with startups I work with... ended up busy speaking to people for the rest of the conference. It is amazing how many people (management and C-level) actually don't realise the mouse has already chewed off the one leg and has started on the other.

Want to be REALLY successful and move out of collecting certifications and being on the verge of redundancy on a continuous basis? Outside of your organisation, what are the challenges you've seen that can be fixed? Have certs helped the guys at IoT.nxt? Perhaps... How about Khula - another bunch of guys who saw a problem in the farming space... they won a dev contest we ran and have TRIPLED in size in the past 2 months.

Still sophisticated? How about a guy who never even set foot on a plane. Walking through joburg he sees a bunch of potholes and rubbish. He sees a street sweeper. He builds a low power, light-weight sensor pack with tx/rx (now with camera incidentally) that sends the GPS co-ordinates and alerts government so they can go do something about it. This is going to be even easier when NB IoT etc is enabled across the country... He is now able to sell thousands of these sensor packs to government, mines, reserves (and not just for brooms because the platform can be repurposed). He was covered internationally, featured at ITU, met the president... This is a dude with NOTHING... so it isn't even that hard or expensive... connectivity is everywhere. I've consumed a lot of MIT open courseware myself! The hardware: go to communica in midrand (or similar) and have fun. Back in my day, youngsters didn't even know where to go let alone have access to the kinds of sophistication on offer here at these prices. :biglol: You don't even need a CNC machine or lathe or 3D printer - you can design and rapidly prototype without big capex upfront as these services are everywhere...

You might not see the risk or think that things will be fine for the next 20 years, but if that was the case, every major ICT company in SA would not be part of the task force/think tank addressing the 60000+ jobs lost in the industry... Seems few see it happening, let alone coming... I hope people start thinking differently soon.
 
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