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16-04-2018, 05:07 PM
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E46 SMG
What’s up ladies and Gents.

I’ve been on the forum before but couldn’t log in so this is my new account.

So basically here’s the situation:

Does anyone here know somebody with a carbon black e46 smg?

Your help will be greatly appreciated


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16-04-2018, 05:51 PM
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RE: E46 SMG
Can you provide more context? Are you looking for one to buy? Or compare?

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16-04-2018, 08:21 PM
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E46 SMG
M3? I think there was a black 330i SMG for sale here recently


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17-04-2018, 09:02 AM
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RE: E46 SMG
I think he wants to buy an E46M3 SMG in carbon black (based on his intro post).

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17-04-2018, 01:02 PM
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RE: E46 SMG
Good luck man, hope you find what you are looking for...

There's Nothing Wrong with SMG, if you know how to use it Properly and maintain the Hydraulic system.
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17-04-2018, 01:28 PM (This post was last modified: 17-04-2018 01:29 PM by brandonbmw.)
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(17-04-2018 01:02 PM)johndoe Wrote:  Good luck man, hope you find what you are looking for...

There's Nothing Wrong with SMG, if you know how to use it Properly and maintain the Hydraulic system.


Lmao bro I just heard straight from bmw that the smg pump is 60 grand that’s crazy.


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(16-04-2018 05:51 PM)AdiS Wrote:  Can you provide more context? Are you looking for one to buy? Or compare?


Looking to buy in a few months but I just wanna know who’s sellin, who might be selling and who will think about it etc...


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17-04-2018, 02:05 PM
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RE: E46 SMG
(17-04-2018 01:28 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 01:02 PM)johndoe Wrote:  Good luck man, hope you find what you are looking for...

There's Nothing Wrong with SMG, if you know how to use it Properly and maintain the Hydraulic system.


Lmao bro I just heard straight from bmw that the smg pump is 60 grand that’s crazy.


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(16-04-2018 05:51 PM)AdiS Wrote:  Can you provide more context? Are you looking for one to buy? Or compare?


Looking to buy in a few months but I just wanna know who’s sellin, who might be selling and who will think about it etc...


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Many posts on here about M3's, Adi has a sticky somewhere if you search, but yeah, basically if you aren't coming with in the region of R300k ready to spend on purchase and maintenance, I'd steer well clear of an E46M3.

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17-04-2018, 02:07 PM (This post was last modified: 17-04-2018 02:39 PM by AdiS.)
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E46 SMG
Smg pump can be had from Burkhart Engineering for 500 euro


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17-04-2018, 02:13 PM
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RE: E46 SMG
hahaha, the SMG system is more than just a pump. other things can cause issues as well and may end up being minor to fix so its not a given that you going to pay 60k for a new pump if you buy one.. But hey, next time do the research before deciding on what you want.
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17-04-2018, 02:31 PM
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RE: E46 SMG
i myself would love one


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17-04-2018, 02:37 PM
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E46 SMG
Yeah... budget won’t be an issue I can afford maintenance.

I’m getting the m3 though thanks gents


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17-04-2018, 02:41 PM
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RE: E46 SMG
If money is truly no object - then yes, get an E46M3, it'll be streets more fun than a 330 and if you take good care of one it might be worth a bit in a few years time too.

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17-04-2018, 02:42 PM (This post was last modified: 17-04-2018 02:43 PM by brandonbmw.)
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(17-04-2018 02:13 PM)johndoe Wrote:  hahaha, the SMG system is more than just a pump. other things can cause issues as well and may end up being minor to fix so its not a given that you going to pay 60k for a new pump if you buy one.. But hey, next time do the research before deciding on what you want.


Bru. I used the pump as an example of the costs, I never said that’s the only thing needed when it comes to smg, it was an example.

I may not be a mechanic but I still know my stuff. “Research” wise.


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(17-04-2018 02:41 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  If money is truly no object - then yes, get an E46M3, it'll be streets more fun than a 330 and if you take good care of one it might be worth a bit in a few years time too.


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17-04-2018, 02:44 PM
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(17-04-2018 02:42 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:13 PM)johndoe Wrote:  hahaha, the SMG system is more than just a pump. other things can cause issues as well and may end up being minor to fix so its not a given that you going to pay 60k for a new pump if you buy one.. But hey, next time do the research before deciding on what you want.


Bru. I used the pump as an example of the costs, I never said that’s the only thing needed when it comes to smg, it was an example.

I may not be a mechanic but I still know my stuff. “Research” wise.


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You are correct to reference the smg pump as it is the most expensive failure that can happen with the entire smg system.

Thankfully there’s an alternative that is better than the dealers

http://burkhart-engineering.com/epages/c...cale=en_GB



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17-04-2018, 02:46 PM (This post was last modified: 17-04-2018 02:55 PM by brandonbmw.)
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(17-04-2018 02:41 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  If money is truly no object - then yes, get an E46M3, it'll be streets more fun than a 330 and if you take good care of one it might be worth a bit in a few years time too.


Not saying it’s no object but I can handle maintenance and the car itself


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(17-04-2018 02:44 PM)AdiS Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:42 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:13 PM)johndoe Wrote:  hahaha, the SMG system is more than just a pump. other things can cause issues as well and may end up being minor to fix so its not a given that you going to pay 60k for a new pump if you buy one.. But hey, next time do the research before deciding on what you want.


Bru. I used the pump as an example of the costs, I never said that’s the only thing needed when it comes to smg, it was an example.

I may not be a mechanic but I still know my stuff. “Research” wise.


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You are correct to reference the smg pump as it is the most expensive failure that can happen with the entire smg system.

Thankfully there’s an alternative that is better than the dealers

http://burkhart-engineering.com/epages/c...cale=en_GB



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Woah that’s an insane price difference. Thanks for that link bro


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17-04-2018, 03:02 PM
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RE: E46 SMG
(17-04-2018 02:46 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:41 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  If money is truly no object - then yes, get an E46M3, it'll be streets more fun than a 330 and if you take good care of one it might be worth a bit in a few years time too.


Not saying it’s no object but I can handle maintenance and the car itself


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(17-04-2018 02:44 PM)AdiS Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:42 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:13 PM)johndoe Wrote:  hahaha, the SMG system is more than just a pump. other things can cause issues as well and may end up being minor to fix so its not a given that you going to pay 60k for a new pump if you buy one.. But hey, next time do the research before deciding on what you want.


Bru. I used the pump as an example of the costs, I never said that’s the only thing needed when it comes to smg, it was an example.

I may not be a mechanic but I still know my stuff. “Research” wise.


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You are correct to reference the smg pump as it is the most expensive failure that can happen with the entire smg system.

Thankfully there’s an alternative that is better than the dealers

http://burkhart-engineering.com/epages/c...cale=en_GB



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Woah that’s an insane price difference. Thanks for that link bro


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The most expensive immediate concern on any S54 you buy would be bearings and Vanos system failures, you'd want that sorted immediately, add to that control arms and maybe brakes, tyres, you're in for around 60-80k alone...

Hence it is very variable on what exactly you want. There are some good E46M3's out there, but a good one will cost you, both in initial costs and in initial maintaining.

Add to that the subframe issues that plague E46s and you likely need something damn near R100k ready to spend on the car to get it up and running.

You sound like you've done some initial level research but again, AdiS has a post here that goes in good depth and it's been discussed to death - the last thing you want is an M car you can't use because it's up a lift, many guys here have the motto "the most expensive M car, is a cheap M car"....

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17-04-2018, 03:08 PM (This post was last modified: 17-04-2018 03:10 PM by brandonbmw.)
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(17-04-2018 03:02 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:46 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:41 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  If money is truly no object - then yes, get an E46M3, it'll be streets more fun than a 330 and if you take good care of one it might be worth a bit in a few years time too.


Not saying it’s no object but I can handle maintenance and the car itself


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(17-04-2018 02:44 PM)AdiS Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:42 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:13 PM)johndoe Wrote:  hahaha, the SMG system is more than just a pump. other things can cause issues as well and may end up being minor to fix so its not a given that you going to pay 60k for a new pump if you buy one.. But hey, next time do the research before deciding on what you want.


Bru. I used the pump as an example of the costs, I never said that’s the only thing needed when it comes to smg, it was an example.

I may not be a mechanic but I still know my stuff. “Research” wise.


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You are correct to reference the smg pump as it is the most expensive failure that can happen with the entire smg system.

Thankfully there’s an alternative that is better than the dealers

http://burkhart-engineering.com/epages/c...cale=en_GB



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Woah that’s an insane price difference. Thanks for that link bro


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The most expensive immediate concern on any S54 you buy would be bearings and Vanos system failures, you'd want that sorted immediately, add to that control arms and maybe brakes, tyres, you're in for around 60-80k alone...

Hence it is very variable on what exactly you want. There are some good E46M3's out there, but a good one will cost you, both in initial costs and in initial maintaining.

Add to that the subframe issues that plague E46s and you likely need something damn near R100k ready to spend on the car to get it up and running.

You sound like you've done some initial level research but again, AdiS has a post here that goes in good depth and it's been discussed to death - the last thing you want is an M car you can't use because it's up a lift, many guys here have the motto "the most expensive M car, is a cheap M car"....


Yeah I’ve heard a lot about bearings but ima get aftermarket bearings. I guess the rest comes with the territory so it’s best to be well prepared, financially and mentally lmao

At least I know some dudes who specialize with bmw so I won’t die out with about costs



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(17-04-2018 03:02 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:46 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:41 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  If money is truly no object - then yes, get an E46M3, it'll be streets more fun than a 330 and if you take good care of one it might be worth a bit in a few years time too.


Not saying it’s no object but I can handle maintenance and the car itself


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(17-04-2018 02:44 PM)AdiS Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:42 PM)brandonbmw Wrote:  
(17-04-2018 02:13 PM)johndoe Wrote:  hahaha, the SMG system is more than just a pump. other things can cause issues as well and may end up being minor to fix so its not a given that you going to pay 60k for a new pump if you buy one.. But hey, next time do the research before deciding on what you want.


Bru. I used the pump as an example of the costs, I never said that’s the only thing needed when it comes to smg, it was an example.

I may not be a mechanic but I still know my stuff. “Research” wise.


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You are correct to reference the smg pump as it is the most expensive failure that can happen with the entire smg system.

Thankfully there’s an alternative that is better than the dealers

http://burkhart-engineering.com/epages/c...cale=en_GB



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Woah that’s an insane price difference. Thanks for that link bro


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The most expensive immediate concern on any S54 you buy would be bearings and Vanos system failures, you'd want that sorted immediately, add to that control arms and maybe brakes, tyres, you're in for around 60-80k alone...

Hence it is very variable on what exactly you want. There are some good E46M3's out there, but a good one will cost you, both in initial costs and in initial maintaining.

Add to that the subframe issues that plague E46s and you likely need something damn near R100k ready to spend on the car to get it up and running.

You sound like you've done some initial level research but again, AdiS has a post here that goes in good depth and it's been discussed to death - the last thing you want is an M car you can't use because it's up a lift, many guys here have the motto "the most expensive M car, is a cheap M car"....


But you guys give good insight and I appreciate your info that you give me. I mean I know my stuff but there’s a lot more that I can learn from you guys so thank you.


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17-04-2018, 04:49 PM
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E46 SMG
The main issue with maintaining an M car is the cost of parts, not labor.

As for bearings, I’d actually recommend just going to OEM rod bolts and bearings.


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