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Conti vs Michelin
24-03-2017, 12:21 PM
Post: #41
RE: Conti vs Michelin
You really cant complain about wear if you are buying Ultra High Performance rubber though. Even though we all want our cake and eat it, at some point you need to compromise.
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24-03-2017, 01:32 PM
Post: #42
RE: Conti vs Michelin
(24-03-2017 12:21 PM)MaX Wrote:  You really cant complain about wear if you are buying Ultra High Performance rubber though. Even though we all want our cake and eat it, at some point you need to compromise.

No for sure. I got the car with a brand new set so I didnt buy them. Just merely sharing my observations. Hoping that the Goodyear's offer slightly better mileage. Considering I do 30 000km + per year, a set and a half of Pilot Sports a year would really hurt the wallet

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24-03-2017, 01:57 PM
Post: #43
RE: Conti vs Michelin
(24-03-2017 12:17 PM)RAArmstrong@TheFanatics Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:13 PM)H|TM@N Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:09 PM)RAArmstrong@TheFanatics Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:04 PM)H|TM@N Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:00 PM)RAArmstrong@TheFanatics Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 11:33 AM)H|TM@N Wrote:  In the end it boils down to personal preference and affordability.

Rob, the GoodYear F1 assym3 is an awesome tyre.

I did lots of research. Definitely a great option when one considers the price

For interest sake, which Michelins did you have on the e60? Thinking

Pilot Sport 3

I hated those on my 330i as well.

Like I say, the grip is awesome. The road noise and wear is horrible. Whats more fun now is that I still have 2 of those up front. So I have the softer non RFT's on the back which has basically turned my 5 series into a tail happy drift car Rofl

This is only true until the F1's get scrubbed a bit, then you will have a RWD car with understeer.

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24-03-2017, 02:02 PM
Post: #44
RE: Conti vs Michelin
(24-03-2017 01:57 PM)H|TM@N Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:17 PM)RAArmstrong@TheFanatics Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:13 PM)H|TM@N Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:09 PM)RAArmstrong@TheFanatics Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:04 PM)H|TM@N Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 12:00 PM)RAArmstrong@TheFanatics Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 11:33 AM)H|TM@N Wrote:  In the end it boils down to personal preference and affordability.

Rob, the GoodYear F1 assym3 is an awesome tyre.

I did lots of research. Definitely a great option when one considers the price

For interest sake, which Michelins did you have on the e60? Thinking

Pilot Sport 3

I hated those on my 330i as well.

Like I say, the grip is awesome. The road noise and wear is horrible. Whats more fun now is that I still have 2 of those up front. So I have the softer non RFT's on the back which has basically turned my 5 series into a tail happy drift car Rofl

This is only true until the F1's get scrubbed a bit, then you will have a RWD car with understeer.

Hmmm so what you're saying is that I should turn the traction control off and scrub them Fencelook

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24-03-2017, 02:05 PM
Post: #45
RE: Conti vs Michelin
Biglol

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24-03-2017, 02:08 PM
Post: #46
RE: Conti vs Michelin
So after all this debate about Ultra High Performance tyres, what should the X3 owner do Rofl
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24-03-2017, 02:16 PM
Post: #47
RE: Conti vs Michelin
i didn't mind the hankook v12 on my 330i ..especially for the price..have pirellis on my audi now..nice tyre

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24-03-2017, 02:16 PM
Post: #48
RE: Conti vs Michelin
Having just read the comments posted here, my vote will go to the Goodyear Eagle AS2 for dry weather grip and the AS3 for wet weather grip...

Out of my own experience I v-boxed a 12.1 with those tyres on the 400m while testing, I have a full set of AS3 now and still happy with the road noise comfort and performance in a bang for buck comparison.

Choice between the Michelin and contis obviously go to the michies for the good reputation they have.

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24-03-2017, 02:28 PM
Post: #49
RE: Conti vs Michelin
(24-03-2017 02:08 PM)MaX Wrote:  So after all this debate about Ultra High Performance tyres, what should the X3 owner do Rofl

The GoodYear Eagle F1 Assym SUV tyre, what else?

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24-03-2017, 02:29 PM
Post: #50
RE: Conti vs Michelin
There's a reason why M cars come fitted with Michelins.
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24-03-2017, 02:31 PM (This post was last modified: 24-03-2017 02:32 PM by H|TM@N.)
Post: #51
RE: Conti vs Michelin
(24-03-2017 02:29 PM)Bazza Wrote:  There's a reason why M cars come fitted with Michelins.

Not all M-cars shipped with Michelins, some shipped with Continentals... e46 M3 comes to mind here. There was a special Continental SportContact just for the e46 M3.

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24-03-2017, 02:51 PM (This post was last modified: 24-03-2017 02:51 PM by RonCT.)
Post: #52
RE: Conti vs Michelin
My experience with Conti Sport Contact is that they wear out quite quickly (especially the rear).
I got much better mileage from Michelin, Dunlop and Goodyear
I got even better from Bridgestone Poteza (but very/most expensive).
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24-03-2017, 02:57 PM
Post: #53
RE: Conti vs Michelin
(24-03-2017 02:29 PM)Bazza Wrote:  There's a reason why M cars come fitted with Michelins.

BTW, M3/M4 can ship with Continental SC 5P, or Michelin PSS
M5 can ship with Pirelli P-Zero or PSS
X5M/X6M can also ship with Conti SC 5P, it just depends it seems. It's not always Michelin.

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24-03-2017, 02:59 PM (This post was last modified: 24-03-2017 03:15 PM by Bazza.)
Post: #54
RE: Conti vs Michelin
(24-03-2017 02:31 PM)H|TM@N Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 02:29 PM)Bazza Wrote:  There's a reason why M cars come fitted with Michelins.

Not all M-cars shipped with Michelins, some shipped with Continentals... e46 M3 comes to mind here. There was a special Continental SportContact just for the e46 M3.

Yes, and some come with Pirellis. That's why I didn't say ALL. And I can't remember anything about the E46 getting a special conti but I know the CSL came with Michelins (sport cups).
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24-03-2017, 05:15 PM
Post: #55
RE: Conti vs Michelin
1st world problem this. A nice one to have.

As stated earlier you have to compare apples with apples. If its a Conti sport contact 5 or 6 rivalling up against a michelin pilot sport or Super sport then the clear winner will be the Michelin. A primacy michelin on the other hand won't be able to hold candle with the CS.

Michelin sidewalls are famously known to be tougher and prone to less flex hence better all round performance, however seeing as you are choosing a Tyre for a non sport application I would factor the considerable cost saving into account.

The Conti sport contact is a great tyre. But to simply answer your thread title the Michelin wins Bluebiggrin

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24-03-2017, 05:17 PM
Post: #56
RE: Conti vs Michelin
I have Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline on my white touring and my e36, haven't noticed road noise but thats probably because of the exhaust or sound system drowning it out. They grip well but I haven't put much mileage on them yet.
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24-03-2017, 08:21 PM
Post: #57
RE: Conti vs Michelin
Michelin all day, every day! Even my wife's Elantra has Pilot Sport 4 on all four corners... There is no way I would fit Conti. Put a full set on my S2000... NEVER EVER again! They were not even as good as Hankooks that I replaced them with after less than 4000km of utter uselessness!

Even if Conti service has improved, my experience was so poor (and with a safety critical item at that!) that I will NEVER fit a set again.

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25-03-2017, 09:57 AM
Post: #58
RE: Conti vs Michelin
I feel so unqualified for this discussion, having only bought ~3.5 sets of tyres (between 4 cars) in my life. Are you all sales reps or just really old?
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25-03-2017, 10:38 AM
Post: #59
RE: Conti vs Michelin
I had the choice between Mich and Conti SC3 for a similar price. I took the Conti as they sat nicer on the car. Rollsmile

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25-03-2017, 10:41 AM (This post was last modified: 25-03-2017 10:48 AM by KevM.)
Post: #60
RE: Conti vs Michelin
Thanks for all the feedback guys. Should have probably been a bit more specific in terms of the comparison....Primacy 3 vs Sport Contact 3.
Must say i am surprised about some of the negative reviews on the contis...always regarded the sc as a good tyre.
My priority is comfort, milege, cost....based on this the Michelins seems to be in the lead.
Seems like i should also consider the Goodyear....was just concerned about this one as some reviews have indicated a bit of additional road noise on bumpy surfaces.

(24-03-2017 10:26 AM)WIDEOPN-X3 Wrote:  Sorry if I missed it but I didnt see the size tyre. (Edit - sorry I see it's a Sportpack so running the narrow / wide combo)

I have been running Goodyear Efficientgrip runflats on my X3 (F25 2.0d) for the last 160 000km. Yes you read correctly 160 000km. Current mileage is 176000km on a 2013 model !!

Back story, I bought the car as a demo with just under 6000km on the clock and it was fitted with 19" narrow / wide combo. Looked great, handled well but the wear on the inside of the rears due to the camber was a problem.

The first set of Contis that were OEM lasted until 16 000km when ironically the fronts were worn to canvass on the inside. This despite my having pointed out the wear when I got the car, the alignment having been checked and "adjusted to factory spec" by the Stealership.

I changed to the Goodyears then after I was persuaded by the Tyremart in Pinetown. I have been on them ever since.

The current set up is that I managed to change to 18" and equal size all round. Also an OEM rim. The currents set has 26000km on them and look to be about 40% worn.

Sorry for the longwinded story but this is important to get across. With the the 19" setup, I never got full wear out of the set because the inside of the rear tyres would wear out while there was still tread above the wear indicators on the outside and on the front tyres. I tried once with the first set to change only the rears and it was a disaster. The TC / centre diff (?) seemed to get confused and the traction control light would blink for nothing. I changed the fronts 2 days later and everything was perfect. So in summary, I never got full wear out of a set but still got 55 000km per set on the 19" set up.

With the 18" Goodyears now on, I am anticipating getting upwards of 65 000km from the set as there the wear pattern on all four tyres is uniform. I have not rotated front to rear and all seems fine.

Price wise, the Goodyears are in my view great value for money. The last set (ie the 18" set on now) was slightly cheaper than the Conti equivalent and significantly cheaper than Michelin / Pirelli.

They grip very well in the wet, disperse standing water fine in my opinion (maybe not as good as Michelin but nevertheless adequate) and grip well in the dry. Good braking efficiency too.

Its a very good tyre imho and worth a look.

Good luck with the choice.=)


PS: From the link on Tinuva'a post above:

Writing about the Pirelli CINTURATO P7 given 86% (245-50-18-W)
Driving on mostly country roads for 38000 average miles
My (2013) X3 xDrive 2.0d came with these tyres - just about to replace all 4 after 38k miles. Comfortable and quiet ride. Will replace with Goodyear EfficientGrip tyres as their label shows greater fuel efficiency (B instead of the Cinturato's C), the same wet grip grade (B) and lower noise (68dB vs the Pirelli's 71dB). Fingers crossed they live up to the good reviews.
tyre reviewed on 2016-03-31 11:08:32



There you go sir=)

Wow...65k km on a set is pretty good for this car.
How do you find the Goodyears in terms of comfort and noise....specifically on bumpy roads?

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