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Wheel Alignment
10-01-2017, 03:13 PM
Post: #1
Wheel Alignment
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so I have fitted 4 new tyres on the 120d Coupe, now I need to do wheel alignment, last time we attempted wheel alignment was at Supa Quick just off 14th ave, and they were giving me some story about how they couldn't set something, and the car still pulled slightly to the right

is there a place I can take it too that will be able to do wheel alignment, the whole 9 yards, someone mentioned TWT woodmead, I am not afraid to travel around jhb to get it done right, anyone can recommend a place for this??

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10-01-2017, 06:56 PM
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RE: Wheel Alignment
Try Kyalami Supa Quick. Call Nolan or Andrew beforehand and ask them about the specific issue that 14th Ave couldn't rectify. They have a new machine - was there a couple of weeks ago. Strangely enough, the guy who bought my S2000 also told me that the 14th ave branch couldn't get his alignment right, but Kyalami sorted it out in under 30 minutes.

I've used TWT Woodmead ages ago so not sure how they are now but experience was generally good.

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10-01-2017, 07:18 PM
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+1 on Kyalami SupaQuik, good work done there....

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10-01-2017, 07:20 PM
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TWT opposite Cresta does a good job.

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11-01-2017, 07:35 AM
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The only place I have ever been properly pleased with is Dastek Hi-Q in Waterkloof, Pretoria. They are the only place who actually fits weights to the vehicle to simulate the weight of the driver, which is the correct way to do it.

Regarding the issue they couldn't resolve, I'm not sure. Give them a call.

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11-01-2017, 07:56 AM
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RE: Wheel Alignment
(10-01-2017 06:56 PM)Llew Wrote:  Try Kyalami Supa Quick. Call Nolan or Andrew beforehand and ask them about the specific issue that 14th Ave couldn't rectify. They have a new machine - was there a couple of weeks ago. Strangely enough, the guy who bought my S2000 also told me that the 14th ave branch couldn't get his alignment right, but Kyalami sorted it out in under 30 minutes.

I've used TWT Woodmead ages ago so not sure how they are now but experience was generally good.

Thanks Llew, I will be going there tomorrow, thanks for the help, I was actually there over the weekend to fit the tyres, but didn't do wheel alignment as I just wanted to be sure before forking out money for alignment that isn't done correctly

someone also told me to rather book it in at a BMW and let them do it

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11-01-2017, 09:14 AM
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RE: Wheel Alignment
(11-01-2017 07:35 AM)ChefDJ@TheFanatics Wrote:  The only place I have ever been properly pleased with is Dastek Hi-Q in Waterkloof, Pretoria. They are the only place who actually fits weights to the vehicle to simulate the weight of the driver, which is the correct way to do it.

Regarding the issue they couldn't resolve, I'm not sure. Give them a call.
Same here, Dastek Hi-Q FTW

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11-01-2017, 09:56 AM
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RE: Wheel Alignment
The best for me is Lombard tyres in Fourways.... the guy that does alignment may keep you waiting for a while but he checks everything. Charges alittle more than TWT or the others but I rather have the job done properly.
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11-01-2017, 02:41 PM
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Speaking of alignment..., i just did my Camry and had a debate with the salesperson and alignment guy about the camber. My car is lowered on HnR springs and thus the camber cannot be adjusted any higher than -1.0 on the left and -0.54 on the right. I requested they make it the same and they insist the difference is minor and wont affect anything.

I asked for both to be -1.0, considering that the tyres i just replaced wore perfectly even with no signs of camber wear and my limited understanding of these things shows that the car will corner differently between left and right...

Anyway.., complained to TWT and the manager asked to bring the car back to set it the way i want.... which is what i wanted in the first place....

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11-01-2017, 03:45 PM
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RE: Wheel Alignment
(11-01-2017 07:35 AM)ChefDJ@TheFanatics Wrote:  The only place I have ever been properly pleased with is Dastek Hi-Q in Waterkloof, Pretoria. They are the only place who actually fits weights to the vehicle to simulate the weight of the driver, which is the correct way to do it.

Regarding the issue they couldn't resolve, I'm not sure. Give them a call.

Do they weigh each driver also?

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12-01-2017, 08:29 AM
Post: #11
RE: Wheel Alignment
(11-01-2017 03:45 PM)Waseem 333i Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 07:35 AM)ChefDJ@TheFanatics Wrote:  The only place I have ever been properly pleased with is Dastek Hi-Q in Waterkloof, Pretoria. They are the only place who actually fits weights to the vehicle to simulate the weight of the driver, which is the correct way to do it.

Regarding the issue they couldn't resolve, I'm not sure. Give them a call.

Do they weigh each driver also?
Haha, no, but that is probably the reason why so many places complain about the negative camber specification of bmw. Imagine with no weight they set it perfectly ( no alignment place tries for perfection just within spec, but lets assume), then you put in some weight ( by how much i am not sure) and immediately the camber is more negative resulting in possible excessive camber wear

I can tell you that on my toyota camry, camber was not a problem until I lowered the car, now it cant be set higher than -1.0, which I am happy with as it is just within spec of -1.15 to 0.5 or something.

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12-01-2017, 10:14 AM
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What I have found is that the machine and technician both need to be right. I've been to a place where the tech is good but machine not. I saw the changes being made but felt no difference in the car. It still pulled left. Then another place where machines are good but tech is rubbish. He loaded e90 settings for my e46 then i had to make him redo it. He still couldn't get it perfect because he didn't know what to adjust. Another place where both machine and tech good. I had no issues after that.

This place where they add weights, how much do they charge?
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12-01-2017, 11:54 AM
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(12-01-2017 10:14 AM)Waseem 333i Wrote:  This place where they add weights, how much do they charge?

Haven't been in about a year but last time I took the 5er there for alignment and balancing it came to about R540 or so, but I'm guessing here.

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12-01-2017, 11:58 AM
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Thats quite alot. Ill stick to my usual place. I am quite happy with the dynamics of the car.
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12-01-2017, 12:18 PM
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(12-01-2017 11:58 AM)Waseem 333i Wrote:  Thats quite alot. Ill stick to my usual place. I am quite happy with the dynamics of the car.

Where is your usual place for alignment

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12-01-2017, 01:43 PM
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Martines in benoni
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12-01-2017, 02:08 PM
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(12-01-2017 11:58 AM)Waseem 333i Wrote:  Thats quite alot. Ill stick to my usual place. I am quite happy with the dynamics of the car.

TWT charges R300 for alignment and R45-R50 per tyre for balancing...., i would pay the extra R50 or R100 in a heart beat, but in your case, that 333I handling cant be be improved.., lol Crazylaugh.

Plus PTA is too far for you to travel...,

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12-01-2017, 02:11 PM
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TWT in Woodmead was good when I used them, but that was a while back.

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12-01-2017, 02:54 PM
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(12-01-2017 02:08 PM)sash Wrote:  
(12-01-2017 11:58 AM)Waseem 333i Wrote:  Thats quite alot. Ill stick to my usual place. I am quite happy with the dynamics of the car.

TWT charges R300 for alignment and R45-R50 per tyre for balancing...., i would pay the extra R50 or R100 in a heart beat, but in your case, that 333I handling cant be be improved.., lol Crazylaugh.

Plus PTA is too far for you to travel...,

Mag Man in benoni did the 333 a few years back. Their machine had the settings for the car and it drove perfect. They have a new tech who is not jacked up as a fanatic would like but their machines are good.

Sometimes you can see if the alignment was not done well. On the 46 the one guy put e90 settings and for some reason the car seemed to look higher. When i took it back then toe and camber in the rear was way out.
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14-01-2017, 06:45 AM (This post was last modified: 14-01-2017 06:51 AM by AudiDriver.)
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(11-01-2017 02:41 PM)sash Wrote:  Speaking of alignment..., i just did my Camry and had a debate with the salesperson and alignment guy about the camber. My car is lowered on HnR springs and thus the camber cannot be adjusted any higher than -1.0 on the left and -0.54 on the right. I requested they make it the same and they insist the difference is minor and wont affect anything.

I asked for both to be -1.0, considering that the tyres i just replaced wore perfectly even with no signs of camber wear and my limited understanding of these things shows that the car will corner differently between left and right...

Anyway.., complained to TWT and the manager asked to bring the car back to set it the way i want.... which is what i wanted in the first place....

I agree with having them the same...because they can...but they were indeed correct...1 deg of negative camber would not wear out your tyres. Toe is a lot less forgiving.

If the tie rod ends or control arm bushes are worn, they won't be able to adjust the alignment. It will obviously operate within a band of wear around the setpoint.

Hi-Q on 14th is quite good in my experience. Lebogang mnows how to do alignment. He nus hasn't learnt the trick on race suspensions: to adjust camber plates you need to jack up the car and unload the springs...and if you have stiff ARbs installed front they need to be loosened as well, otherwise you won't slide the plates.

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