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Book Value - Ask Here
08-12-2017, 08:46 PM
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09-12-2017, 04:49 PM
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(24-11-2017 05:21 AM)Massimot Wrote:  
(23-11-2017 10:40 PM)Z4Guy Wrote:  What car did you sell?


I didn’t wasn’t going to take that kind of knock - it was a 2012 F30 328i Lux line 120k on the clock...

Dealers never follow book when trading in a car...

The only way you will get book on a car is if you buy a expensive used SUV where the dealer has lots of cash in on the deal or if you drive a limited production run car or if you have ridiculously low KMs and the car is basically still new...

Bmws usually trade about 40-60k behind book and some of them are up to 100k behind book...


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Although we as consumers refer to these values as the "trade-in/book" value, "trade-in/book" value to a car dealership is the price for the car on the showroom floor with all expenses(if any) to refurbish the car spent. When a dealership buys your car they refer to this amount as "cost" internally.

Back to your issue with BMW trade-in values. The main factors that determine the price offered for your trade-in is market demand, condition and stock availability of your type of car in the location of the dealership. I was offered on the dot trade-in value earlier this year on our 2013 BMW 118i Auto with 42 000kms at a dealership in Cape Town. This offer was also on the condition that we purchase a new X1 from this dealership. A dealership will generally make you a good offer for a trade-in if you take another car from them. Getting a trade offer from the same brand dealership as your car will also put you in a position to get a better price as it's beneficial for the dealership to keep you with the brand.

To get accurate trade and retail values of your car I suggest you use https://www.wheelindex.co.za/car-valuation-tool

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09-12-2017, 06:29 PM (This post was last modified: 09-12-2017 06:43 PM by Massimot.)
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(09-12-2017 04:49 PM)kingr Wrote:  
(24-11-2017 05:21 AM)Massimot Wrote:  
(23-11-2017 10:40 PM)Z4Guy Wrote:  What car did you sell?


I didn’t wasn’t going to take that kind of knock - it was a 2012 F30 328i Lux line 120k on the clock...

Dealers never follow book when trading in a car...

The only way you will get book on a car is if you buy a expensive used SUV where the dealer has lots of cash in on the deal or if you drive a limited production run car or if you have ridiculously low KMs and the car is basically still new...

Bmws usually trade about 40-60k behind book and some of them are up to 100k behind book...


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Although we as consumers refer to these values as the "trade-in/book" value, "trade-in/book" value to a car dealership is the price for the car on the showroom floor with all expenses(if any) to refurbish the car spent. When a dealership buys your car they refer to this amount as "cost" internally.

Back to your issue with BMW trade-in values. The main factors that determine the price offered for your trade-in is market demand, condition and stock availability of your type of car in the location of the dealership. I was offered on the dot trade-in value earlier this year on our 2013 BMW 118i Auto with 42 000kms at a dealership in Cape Town. This offer was also on the condition that we purchase a new X1 from this dealership. A dealership will generally make you a good offer for a trade-in if you take another car from them. Getting a trade offer from the same brand dealership as your car will also put you in a position to get a better price as it's beneficial for the dealership to keep you with the brand.

To get accurate trade and retail values of your car I suggest you use https://www.wheelindex.co.za/car-valuation-tool

Hope you find these insight helpful.


Not really..

A dealer will make the most amount of money as possible on a car - they give you the value of the car over the phone - it doesn’t even matter if you treated the care with love and care or drove the crap out of it and neglected maintenance.

Most dealers don’t fix anything on the car unless the new buyer notices it and wants it fixed.

There are plenty buyers who don’t know what to look for in a car and buy cars that are in very poor condition.

We went to see a A Class Merc and I can see that the car was repaired on every corner of the car and being black it was noticeable. Yet the price was the same as a pristine model with no accident damage

Cars are generally emotional purchases and the desire to have something new in some cases over rides the logic of checking the car out properly...

Dealers buy stock at book minus R50k and retail them at full retail and if they spend R5k on a few odds and ends they make easy R80k on some cars plus the dealer incentives on financing...

It’s a win some lose some situation - sometimes they trade in a car that’s clean with very little to spend and sometimes they trade in a problem car...

They win more than they lose...

Lots of dealers buy stock at Auctions where its face value viewing

My 328i varied from R150 - 200k... when I said no to the R150k trade on a 320d then all of a sudden the price went up to R170k

These guys try there luck to see how stupid you are...

I mean R150k for a 328i with full M-Sport package and M-Performance exhaust... thanks but no thanks I’ll keep the car.

If I was buying a X5 I would have been offered R230k as a trade on it..


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(09-12-2017 04:49 PM)kingr Wrote:  
(24-11-2017 05:21 AM)Massimot Wrote:  
(23-11-2017 10:40 PM)Z4Guy Wrote:  What car did you sell?


I didn’t wasn’t going to take that kind of knock - it was a 2012 F30 328i Lux line 120k on the clock...

Dealers never follow book when trading in a car...

The only way you will get book on a car is if you buy a expensive used SUV where the dealer has lots of cash in on the deal or if you drive a limited production run car or if you have ridiculously low KMs and the car is basically still new...

Bmws usually trade about 40-60k behind book and some of them are up to 100k behind book...


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Although we as consumers refer to these values as the "trade-in/book" value, "trade-in/book" value to a car dealership is the price for the car on the showroom floor with all expenses(if any) to refurbish the car spent. When a dealership buys your car they refer to this amount as "cost" internally.

Back to your issue with BMW trade-in values. The main factors that determine the price offered for your trade-in is market demand, condition and stock availability of your type of car in the location of the dealership. I was offered on the dot trade-in value earlier this year on our 2013 BMW 118i Auto with 42 000kms at a dealership in Cape Town. This offer was also on the condition that we purchase a new X1 from this dealership. A dealership will generally make you a good offer for a trade-in if you take another car from them. Getting a trade offer from the same brand dealership as your car will also put you in a position to get a better price as it's beneficial for the dealership to keep you with the brand.

To get accurate trade and retail values of your car I suggest you use https://www.wheelindex.co.za/car-valuation-tool

Hope you find these insight helpful.


The only reason you got trade on your car was simply because it was a easy seller for the dealership being a entry level car with low KMs and that you were buying a car that is historically a hard or bad seller so they sweetened the deal on your car to make you feel like it was a good deal for you.

Truth is most dealers would have offered you that deal on that car if you were buying the X1

If you were buying a X5 you would have been asked what you wanted for the car and if you said retail then they might have given it to you...

Also X1’s have a big discount value from the dealers so they could lower the profit on the X1 to increase your trade

At the end of the day BMW doesn’t care if they break even on the X1 as all they care about is the dealer incentives from BMW SA - the more X series cars they move the more 3 series cars they get allocated which is where they actually do make money on...

I think for every 5 series and X series and 7 series they sell they get 5 more 3 series in there allocations and also any special editions models that are being launched...

A dealer moving a lot of higher series cars gets more limited edition cars and more 3 series than other dealers...


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12-12-2017, 08:05 AM
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(08-12-2017 08:46 PM)camzm3 Wrote:  2013 hyundai I10 motion A/T 32000km

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12-12-2017, 09:51 AM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2017 09:51 AM by camzm3.)
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(12-12-2017 08:05 AM)Tris Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 08:46 PM)camzm3 Wrote:  2013 hyundai I10 motion A/T 32000km

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Is it 1.1, 1.2, 1.25?
1.25 thank you ...

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(08-12-2017 08:46 PM)camzm3 Wrote:  2013 hyundai I10 motion A/T 32000km

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Is it 1.1, 1.2, 1.25?
1.25 thank you ...

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13-12-2017, 07:53 AM
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(12-12-2017 09:51 AM)camzm3 Wrote:  
(12-12-2017 08:05 AM)Tris Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 08:46 PM)camzm3 Wrote:  2013 hyundai I10 motion A/T 32000km

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Is it 1.1, 1.2, 1.25?
1.25 thank you ...

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(12-12-2017 08:05 AM)Tris Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 08:46 PM)camzm3 Wrote:  2013 hyundai I10 motion A/T 32000km

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Is it 1.1, 1.2, 1.25?
1.25 thank you ...

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Price below is for Fluid
Trade Value 89000.00
Retail Value 99000.00

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13-12-2017, 08:00 AM
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(13-12-2017 07:53 AM)Tris Wrote:  
(12-12-2017 09:51 AM)camzm3 Wrote:  
(12-12-2017 08:05 AM)Tris Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 08:46 PM)camzm3 Wrote:  2013 hyundai I10 motion A/T 32000km

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Is it 1.1, 1.2, 1.25?
1.25 thank you ...

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(12-12-2017 08:05 AM)Tris Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 08:46 PM)camzm3 Wrote:  2013 hyundai I10 motion A/T 32000km

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Is it 1.1, 1.2, 1.25?
1.25 thank you ...

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Price below is for Fluid
Trade Value 89000.00
Retail Value 99000.00
Thank you ! Yes my mistake fluid ... and that is very disappointing lol

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14-12-2017, 12:03 AM
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Can you please give me the book value on the following car :

Year : 2006
Model : 330d m sport
Transmission : auto
Mileage : 161000 km
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14-12-2017, 08:03 AM
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(14-12-2017 12:03 AM)Omar HS Wrote:  Can you please give me the book value on the following car :

Year : 2006
Model : 330d m sport
Transmission : auto
Mileage : 161000 km

Trade Value 93400.00
Retail Value 107900.00

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14-12-2017, 08:12 AM (This post was last modified: 14-12-2017 08:13 AM by FerdiBotha.)
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Hi Tris,

Can you please assist with book values for the following:

2014 & 2015 Suzuki Swift Sport

Thanks in advanceTy


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14-12-2017, 11:59 AM
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Hi Tris. Hope you are well.

May you please provide me with the retail, trade and possibly market value of the following:

2013 VW Golf 7 2.0Tdi Highline DSG
Blue
55000-60000 km
Extras: heated seats - front, panoramic roof, climate control / automatic air conditioning, sunroof, park distance control (PDC) - rear, park distance control (PDC) - front, leather upholstery.

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14-12-2017, 12:15 PM (This post was last modified: 14-12-2017 12:16 PM by Tris.)
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(14-12-2017 08:12 AM)FerdiBotha Wrote:  Hi Tris,

Can you please assist with book values for the following:

2014 & 2015 Suzuki Swift Sport

Thanks in advanceTy

2014
Trade Value 150300.00
Retail Value 171500.00

2015
Trade Value 172700.00
Retail Value 196000.00

(14-12-2017 11:59 AM)M77G Wrote:  Hi Tris. Hope you are well.

May you please provide me with the retail, trade and possibly market value of the following:

2013 VW Golf 7 2.0Tdi Highline DSG
Blue
55000-60000 km
Extras: heated seats - front, panoramic roof, climate control / automatic air conditioning, sunroof, park distance control (PDC) - rear, park distance control (PDC) - front, leather upholstery.

Thanks Bluebiggrin

Trade Value 209900.00
Retail Value 253500.00
Market Value 231700.00

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14-12-2017, 01:04 PM
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Hi Tris

Could you please assist with trade, retail and market value

2017

F30 - 320d Msport auto ( lots of extras)

1000KM

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14-12-2017, 02:04 PM
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(14-12-2017 12:15 PM)Tris Wrote:  
(14-12-2017 08:12 AM)FerdiBotha Wrote:  Hi Tris,

Can you please assist with book values for the following:

2014 & 2015 Suzuki Swift Sport

Thanks in advanceTy

2014
Trade Value 150300.00
Retail Value 171500.00

2015
Trade Value 172700.00
Retail Value 196000.00

(14-12-2017 11:59 AM)M77G Wrote:  Hi Tris. Hope you are well.

May you please provide me with the retail, trade and possibly market value of the following:

2013 VW Golf 7 2.0Tdi Highline DSG
Blue
55000-60000 km
Extras: heated seats - front, panoramic roof, climate control / automatic air conditioning, sunroof, park distance control (PDC) - rear, park distance control (PDC) - front, leather upholstery.

Thanks Bluebiggrin

Trade Value 209900.00
Retail Value 253500.00
Market Value 231700.00


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14-12-2017, 03:00 PM
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Howsit buddy,

Hope you can help, trying to figure out more or less what my 635 is worth, I'm aware that its probably worth what anyone would pay me for it but I'm actually wanting to know more or less book and retail.

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15-12-2017, 01:12 PM
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(14-12-2017 01:04 PM)bankze8 Wrote:  Hi Tris

Could you please assist with trade, retail and market value

2017

F30 - 320d Msport auto ( lots of extras)

1000KM

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Trade Value 566910.00
Retail Value 629900.00

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(15-12-2017 01:12 PM)Tris Wrote:  
(14-12-2017 01:04 PM)bankze8 Wrote:  Hi Tris

Could you please assist with trade, retail and market value

2017

F30 - 320d Msport auto ( lots of extras)

1000KM

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Trade Value 566910.00
Retail Value 629900.00
Thanks Bud

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Hi Bud,

Year: 2013
Model: Audi A4 1.8T (B8 - 125KW)
Transmission: Auto/Multitronic
Mileage : 90 000km

Baseline - no extras

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